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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-12-24 03:24 pm

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[identity profile] murderershair.livejournal.com 2011-12-24 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of people hate Catcher in the Rye because they read it in school. I began by really not caring for it, but as soon as I started reading ahead and not having to do discussion questions, my opinion improved significantly.

This is also, I suspect, why I'm the only person in my generation I know who likes Farenheit 451- I read it over the summer, and they studied it in school.

That said, there's also the hype backlash phenomenon- most people I know who really hate Salinger have parents that love Salinger, or were told by librarians that it was the quintessential teen book or something. I think it's a perfectly good book, but I certainly disagree with those people saying Holden Caufield is all teenagers- he's really clearly not meant to be.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-24 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I never had to read Farenheit 451, but I loved it when I read it around age 13. But I've read books for school that I loved -- like Great Expectations or Ethan Frome (now if you want to talk about a book people HATE, it's Ethan Frome).

But yes, I remember people telling me that Catcher in the Rye was a "quintessential teen book" and I think that just made me dislike it more while reading it.

(Amusingly enough, my mom IS a librarian, and she never liked the book either.)
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[identity profile] murderershair.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
I think if you have a good teacher and the material's great (or sometimes just if the material's great) then a book can escape the School Reading Curse. I've had a string of terrible English teachers, so the only book I read in school and came out liking that I hadn't already read was The Great Gatsby. Maybe Picture of Dorian Gray, though I think that only half counts since it was a "read over holidays then write a paper" assignment. Though I did come out of senior year with far more tolerance for Faulker than anyone else in my family, but I put that down to the teacher having genuine enthusiasm.

The pegging of Catcher in the Rye as this universal teen thing will never not just confuse the hell out of me. If anything, it's a book that makes more sense the older you are reading it. I don't know if anything actually IS a quintessential teen book, though.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-25 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
Oh! I did love "The Great Gatsby" too.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Why would anyone hate Farenheit 451 WTF
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[identity profile] murderershair.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
THAT WAS WHAT I SAID. I honestly never understood beyond just a general intolerance of books read at school (like I like The Great Gatsby and Fitzgerald in general, but at least I can understand why people would be tired of rich white people problems) I guess if you prefer super heavy character studies, maybe you wouldn't find Montag compelling? It really confused me at the time (I was so jealous too, because my teacher was making us read The Chocolate War AGAIN)

(Anonymous) 2011-12-25 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
Some of it is due to being put off by the author's insistence that everyone ever is interpreting it wrong, but mostly I just don't care for dystopias.

[identity profile] tari-silmarwen.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there was that downer open-ending. I was pretty okay with the book up until that part. I wasn't loving it or anything but it kept me reasonably interested and engaged and then BAM sudden nuclear attack, the city is leveled, and they're walking towards it looking for survivors. And then it just ends.

I'm not really one for open-endings, personally, so I couldn't really like the book much after that. Sorry.

[identity profile] tastylogic.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're right about not liking books that you were forced to read and analyze in school. I still can't read Dickens or Hemmingway because they were forced down my throat too much in school. It doesn't help that a lot of schools make it so that the teachers have to get through a good amount of books/short-stories in a short amount of time so there isn't a lot of time for some of the students to really get into the books.

Yeah, daughter of an English teacher. Serious feelings, I have them :D
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[identity profile] murderershair.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
I still resent Steinbeck a little bit because of school- I worked up a grudging fondness after my best friend convinced me to read Cannery Row, but I will never not loathe Of Mice And Men.

What's weird is, half the time the curriculum is forcing the teachers to assign three hundred page books in about a month, and the rest of the time there's not enough on the curriculum so the teachers end up having to stretch short books out over ridiculously long periods of time. I got such whiplash year to year, particularly when I started taking AP classes. Junior year I swear we only read three books (I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings, Frankenstein, and Equus), then senior year we had to fit so much in I just gave up on actually finishing all of them.

[identity profile] tastylogic.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh Steinbeck. I actually was good with Of Mice and Men, but I could not stand Grapes of Wrath. I gave up reading it about half way through. My mother was one of my AP teachers and I did end up not finishing Great Expectations for her. I had listened to her talk about it enough though so she didn't know I didn't actually read it till years later.

[identity profile] wicked-seraph.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. We never studied Fahrenheit 451 in school but I ended up loving it because I had the opportunity to read it myself and come to my own conclusions. Except for The Things They Carried, I actually really liked most of the books we had to read for my AP English Lit class in high school, though, probably because my professor was awesome in general.

I love The Hunchback of Notre-Dame but I know I would have disliked it if I had to study it. The same applies for most of the other books I'm working on getting through.