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⌈ Secret Post #1817 ⌋


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Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

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[niuxita21.livejournal.com]

Wow, this is the first I've heard of "everyone" hating "The Catcher in the Rye," but then again, I've never gone looking for a fandom or discussion on it. But yeah, OP, you're not alone. I love that book and find Holden Caulfield to be such a heartbreaking character, I always end up wishing he could be OK in the end.

[dangerousdame.livejournal.com]

Me too! He has PTSD following the death of his brother- I hardly think that counts as self-indulgent.

[copperiisulfate.livejournal.com]

yeah i haven't come across much hate either though i guess there's a lot of pop-culture mockery aimed at its direction since it's become such a classic.

i have loads of love for holden's teen angst though and that book in general. there's a unique sort of charm in that narrative that i haven't found elsewhere

[zephyrian.livejournal.com]

"Everyone hates this book"? Who have you been talking to, preteens? It's a classic; a masterpiece. Congrats on your good taste.

[vethica.livejournal.com]

I liked Holden. He reminded me of me. Yeah, you're not alone, OP.

[shibaiko.livejournal.com]

I've never understood why people think that you have to like Holden Caulfield in order to like Catcher in the Rye. That seems like such an immature way to approach literature.

Also, everyone who likes Catcher in the Rye but has never read any of Salinger's other work, you should do so immediately. Everyone who hated Catcher in the Rye should do the same thing to.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate this book, tbh.

But I hate whiny, annoying, angst-centric teen books in general, so. Hell, I even READ this as a teen and hated it with the passion of a thousand suns.

[fierceawakening.livejournal.com]

I find it hard to like Salinger knowing about his romantic life. It just made stuff that seemed sadromantic in his stories become totally creepsteriffic in my head.

Yeah, I know thinking about the author's real life is reading fiction fail, especially since I really like some authors who were as bad or worse. But for some reason with Salinger it colored how I read him.

[intrigueing.livejournal.com]

I could have written this in my sleep. I spent basically every spare minute of my four years in high school holed up in the fiction section of the school library, and by sophomore year I thought I would scream if I ever read the *blurb* of another whiny, angsty teen book -- let alone an actual whiny, angsty teen book -- but Catcher in the Rye has been among my favorite books ever even though I read it during sophomore year too, and I don't know what makes it so utterly different. I suppose it has something to do with the time period in which it was written and set, or maybe the writing and Holden's unique narration style, or maybe the fact that it takes place over a period of just a couple of days, or maybe because it, unlike most teen books, never pretends to be about something other than Holden's teen angst. I can't put my finger on what makes it so utterly different, but something about it (something other than Salinger's superior writing) makes it absolutely different.

[murderershair.livejournal.com]

I think a lot of people hate Catcher in the Rye because they read it in school. I began by really not caring for it, but as soon as I started reading ahead and not having to do discussion questions, my opinion improved significantly.

This is also, I suspect, why I'm the only person in my generation I know who likes Farenheit 451- I read it over the summer, and they studied it in school.

That said, there's also the hype backlash phenomenon- most people I know who really hate Salinger have parents that love Salinger, or were told by librarians that it was the quintessential teen book or something. I think it's a perfectly good book, but I certainly disagree with those people saying Holden Caufield is all teenagers- he's really clearly not meant to be.

[oflittlebrain.livejournal.com]

awww i loved this book haha i thought it was sweet. i liked perks of being a wallflower better though, i think.

(omg i can't believe you mentioned thirteen reasons why. god, what a trainwreck that was.)

[zoey-says.livejournal.com]

I don't get the hate and I was surprised that there was any, but when I was reading it anyone that saw me with it would comment on how much they didn't like it (they weren't strangers btw lol that would be awkward). I enjoy it. *shrugs*

I also own the same copy in the picture. Note to any publishers, a pure white matte cover is NOT a good idea. Mine had loads of smudge marks on it by the time I was done. I don't even know if it was the ink or what, but it looks like crap now...

[starzki.livejournal.com]

I read this at a younger age and while I could identify at the teenaged angst, I thought that Holden was a lying jerk. I like the book, but wanted Holden to be nicer.

Then, I read it pretty recently and I felt just so sad for Holden. He was just trying to hold it together and not doing a very good job. He was just a kid who didn't know how to cope and no one could see past their own noses enough (except his sister) to see that he desperately needed some kind of help.

He was still a jerk, but my own maturity made me realize it was just a mask for all of the pain he was feeling, and I could forgive him.

Poor kid.

[hallieface.livejournal.com]

Bro do you know how much crap I've gotten for not liking this book? Believe me, friend, you are not alone in your love of Catcher in the Rye.

[hopeandmemory.livejournal.com]

i've never understood why everyone haaaaates this book so much. yeah, holden caulfield isn't exactly a great person, but he's also a teenager and 95% of teenagers are horrible people. they get over it eventually. but he clearly had a lot of problems aside from general angst.

idk. i really enjoyed the book and i like him as a character, even if i wouldn't personally like him if he were real, if that makes sense.

[cyren-2132.livejournal.com]

John Green loves Catcher in the Rye, and you should watch these 4-minute videos that I hope embed OK since preview went away. One of my favorite quotes (that relates well to some of these comments):

"In response to th common criticism that Holden Caulfield...is unlikable, I regret to inform you that you are also unlikable. So am I. There's this, like, weird but pervasive feeling in the world of contemporary coming-of-age fiction that characters ought to be like either the person you want to be or the person you want to be with, and I am happy to acknowledge that Holden Caulfield is not the guy you want to be or the guy you want to be with. He's not Edward Cullen. But he is the guy you secretly know yourself to be."

[childings.livejournal.com]

I didn't hate it either. It's one of the few books I was forced to read in high school English that I didn't hate. I guess I'm doing something wrong

[citrinesunset.livejournal.com]

You're not alone, OP. I love the book, and have never understood why it's so disliked.

[meadowphoenix]

I don't mind Holden as a character. But FFS, Salinger's writing ruined this for me more than the actual plot, or lack thereof. There's a reason I don't want to read about being completely lost in life, and Salinger made it ten times more irritating. If this had been written in third person limited, I would have been ten times more interested. But Salinger had to make unreliable narrator a thing, so.

[la-petite-singe.livejournal.com]

Everyone hates that book? Wow, that's...so anti-hipster that it's hipster again.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sure it's just a vocal minority expressing the hate. It's a classic, and the vast majority of readers adore it.

As for myself, I really should give it another try one of these days. The one and only time I read it, I was barely out of my teens, and I couldn't stand Holden ranting against all the "phonies." I just wanted to scream at him that yes, people are fatally flawed and terrified of their weaknesses and put up fronts to hide them, but that doesn't mean there's actually this group of "genuine" people who are automatically so much better than everyone else. That perceived "phony/genuine" divide is at the core of so much douchey hipsterism that I hated how I thought that book promoted it.

Now that I'm older, I may very well feel a lot more charitable towards Holden. Perhaps he was just too emotionally immature and too traumatized to have learned that lesson yet.

[mutantjules.livejournal.com]

I hate that book, quite possibly more than any other, but most people love it. It's widely considered a classic. It's on all the books-you-should-read lists, it's required in schools everywhere, and it is the one book that fucks up my personal theory that awesome books get banned (so, if you like it, it's in excellent company). People name their kids after that douche

obviously you're not a ~bad person for liking it. I wouldn't even Judge You for it. We just disagree.

[saya22.livejournal.com]

As a bookseller I can safely say that people still clamoring for Catcher in the Rye, both for studying and out of real interest. That and Perks of Being a Wallflower. I personally don't like both; I'd rather read no-nonsense teen protagonists like Tiffany Aching and Coraline. Unfortunately, characters like them are quite far in between.

[maldeluxx.livejournal.com]

I agree.