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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-12-25 03:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #1818 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1818 ⌋


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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
17. http://oi41.tinypic.com/2lz6dx.jpg

[identity profile] mika-kun.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I really like the series, and I think that that ending could have worked really well if they'd spent an extra chapter or two setting it all up a bit better. I just felt the ending seemed too rushed, like they just tacked it on because they wanted to be done, but what actually happens at the end was as decent a way to end it as anything else. (I wanted a happier ending, but I'm a giant sucker like that)

tl;dr: IMHO the ending was a good idea but poorly executed.

[identity profile] verschreibsel.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
How did it end if I may ask? I always enjoyed the series but didn't keep up with it.

[identity profile] sindragosa.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Watanuki is doomed to run the shop 'til the end of time, even shown a hundred years in the future waiting for Yuko, while Domeki's great-great-whatever-son says that since Watanuki is still so hung up on Yuko, it's probably never going to be time to use the egg (which had the power to wipe Watanuki's mind of all things Yuko).

Pretty bittersweet and lacking, if you ask me.

[identity profile] verschreibsel.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Mh I think I'm actually okay with it then.

[identity profile] hikari87.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
SPOILERS IN THIS COMMENT FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN"T READ THE ENDING


I despised the ending, not because I can't handle tragic endings but because it felt like a complete reversal, betrayal even, of the messages and themes the series had been consistently projecting throughout. We had book after book telling us quite insistently that we are involved with people and need to consider their feelings and that we should take care of ourselves for that reason, and because we are valuable even if we can't see it, all this "no man is an island" stuff, and then suddenly BAM Watanuki decides to totally ignore Yuko's last wish (which it was shown that he wanted to grant her, before knowing it): that he live on in happiness with his friends. Instead, he decides to live on in misery forever while everyone who loved him aged and died while watching him be miserable, waiting forever for Yuko to come back, which she won't. Idk, maybe it was just CLAMP messing with us, but it seemed realllly out of tone with the rest of the series :/

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Huh? I still think Dômeki was a girl, and he and watanuki had children, and the great-grandson coming to visit was actually both their great-grandson, so he HAD his life, and his happiness, but just decided he wanted to wait for yuko. Haha, crack, much, Anon?
where does it say he was miserable? Someone has to run the shop, after all.

[identity profile] hikari87.livejournal.com 2011-12-26 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
He's constantly shown sighing and looking infinitely depressed and moping about Yuko; the last scene is him string up at the sky saying "Yuko-san..." The reason for the egg is so he can forget her and move forward in his life, because she's not coming back, but he's choosing to live his life forever pining over her loss, which is made very clear, and it's commented on a few times that he isn't happy.

[identity profile] streetcake.livejournal.com 2011-12-26 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
1000x this. Especially since it seemed like Watanuki finally had his life together and then Wham! Yuuko dies and everything he's learned goes down the drain.

[identity profile] blueonblue.livejournal.com 2011-12-26 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly! Chapter after chapter about how important it is to have friends and be connected to the world around you, and then in the end Doumeki dies offscreen, as does everyone else, and Watanuki doesn't care. The story goes from "only connect" to "hikikomori lifestyle yay!"

[identity profile] streetcake.livejournal.com 2011-12-26 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I love XXXHolic and the crappy ending doesn't change that, but that ending felt so cheap and incomplete. If that was the way they were planning to end it, then they shouldn't have dragged it out with filler stories. I genuinely thought it wasn't the last chapter because it was so abrupt.

[identity profile] isa-lyxces.livejournal.com 2011-12-26 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
This. I was like, "What? It didn't end!" And then I realized it was. And got mad. I think they copped out a little. But this being CLAMP, I think they coulda done it if they actually set it up beforehand. CLAMP is king of bittersweet endings.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yuuko: Go, live your life to the fullest with people who love you and who you love!
Watanuki: No.

Doumeki and Kohane, who are both in love with Watanuki, get hitched together because they can't make Watanuki choose them instead of Yuuko, and have a baby/babies so that there's always someone who can take care of Watanuki after Doumeki and Kohane pass on. The next generation does the same... Ad infinitum.

And all this happens because Doumeki and his descendants won't use the egg, given by Yuuko who wanted it be used, that supposedly would "free" Watanuki from his endless waiting.

It's a pretty crappy ending, even for Clamp. It's not even bittersweet, just... hopeless.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
lol apparently even the creators of it were kind of confused about how they ended it and said they should probably reread the whole thing

[identity profile] marumae.livejournal.com 2011-12-26 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much exactly how I feel about this and the comment up above. So damn hopeless :\.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
i LOVED this series when it was running. it's probably one of my more favorite CLAMP works but i have to agree in that the ending did feel rushed. i kind of felt a little cheated and unsatisfied with its presentation. the ending itself was exactly how i pictured the series to end but again... rushed.

in terms of how it ended... *SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT*

i was pretty sure that he was able to leave the shop since he spent a hundred years waiting for yuuko. i interpreted the dream he had of her/the butterfly as her way of telling him that he didn't have to wait anymore and that it was time to finally come to terms with everything and be happy. and i think he also realized that her final wish was pretty much for him to find happiness. when he was telling the great great grandson about the dream, i got the feeling that he had finally come to terms with her death and that he was no longer confined to the shop but that it was his choice to remain there and still wait for her to come back because that was his happiness. the reason why the great great grandson didn't use the egg was probably because even though watanuki could leave the shop and find happiness after so many generations taking care of him and being by his side they probably realized/understood that the bond between watanuki and yuuko was beyond unbreakable. that and i think the egg's purpose was to be used when watanuki couldn't stand the loneliness anymore and was about to break.

long comment is long but there's my two cents

[identity profile] gabzillaz.livejournal.com 2011-12-26 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
I hated the series and I hated the ending.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
If you hated the series, how is it a surprise that you hated the ending?

[identity profile] gabzillaz.livejournal.com 2011-12-26 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I mainly hated the series because of its relation to TRC, which I hate with the force of a thousand suns, BUT I thought it had its merits. The ending just took whatever good it had and shitted all over it.

Not rational, I know.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
this secret reminds me that I've been meaning to watch the anime for a while. Do you guys recommend the dub or the sub?

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
sub all the way