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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-12-29 07:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #1822 ]

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
21. http://i41.tinypic.com/vy2nac.png

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Well that sure sounds incredibly petty.
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[identity profile] visp.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Petty? Kids can be cruel.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Petty, really? You don't know what those bullies did to her. >_> Also, revenge fantasies are pretty common, especially among kids. So. :/

My only question is why OP was reading Elfen Lied when she was a kid.

[identity profile] violence4.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Except that you have absolutely no idea what was done to the OP by these bullies. Bullying can be anything from silly name-calling gone a bit too far to violence so serious it ends up endangering the victim's life.

[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
As long as we call it "bullying" and not "abuse" then victims don't have the right to be angry. Didn't you get the memo?

[identity profile] estellasharina.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. Kids should just learn to suck it up because bullying is what kids do and it builds ~*character*~. Nothing abusing about that, amirite? ._.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
No.

They did some incredibly heinous things, some of which could at best be described as sexually menacing.

Growing up as the only middle-class white kid at a poor school during my formative years was really not a fun time. I'm honestly surprised I managed to put it behind me as well as I did. Sorry, but bullying covers more then just the occasional name calling.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
SA

*at best

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
You sound like a bully.

[identity profile] smittenlotus.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't continue to read/watch this series then, OP, especially when you're not feeling your best. The examples of bullies in this series are pretty over the top and poorly written anyway, just like everything else in it.
Edited 2011-12-30 00:55 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't it just.

Story, dialogue, art, ideas, the gratuitousness - all done in such a ham handed way, but it still just manages to hit all the right buttons.

In retrospect, honestly surprised I didn't project onto Nana more when I was young.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Get even then.
My revenge fantasies stopped the minute I realized how much more I could kick ass than all those bullies of mine combined.

I don't care it it makes me a malicious jerk, but I smile every time I see how badly they're doing nowadays (and yes, every single one of them is doing bad), even though it's been 10+ years. I don't think I'm a bad person, I just think I have a very humane reaction to people who used to be little shits as kids and still haven't outgrown their better-than-thou attitude. At least I know I'm being a bitch. (And it's not like I'm antagonizing my former bullies - but it's reassuring to know I could if I wanted to.)

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, what? There's a difference between having a little perverse pleasure in knowing your bullies are doing bad, and actually getting even. I don't know what you're trying to say.

Anyway, I've found that when I do get revenge in a way that actually hurts someone, it never makes me feel better. It just makes me feel like now I'm just the same as them. I think that's the more common reaction.

[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I cannot tell if AYRT is giving advice vaguely along the lines of "the best revenge is living well" or whether they actually did directly retaliate in some form.

Personally I've never really gotten revenge on anybody so I don't know how it would feel, but I agree with you that a little schadenfreude is somewhat different and probably better-feeling than actual serious retribution. Fantasies and feelings are different than the consequences of real actions.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Lucy is an overrated psycho.

[identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I don't entirely disagree with that statement, but also the canon sets you up to sympathize with her to some degree. Very blatantly, in fact, in the case of that scene.

I don't have revenge fantasies on the enemies who bullied me at all, not after all these years, but... I guess I see where somebody could.

[identity profile] smittenlotus.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
+1 I'm glad someone else sees it. I stopped feeling bad for her once it became clear she knew the difference between right and wrong--she just didn't care.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Elfen Lied
Mirai Nikki
Deadman Wonderland

are all overrated.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2011-12-30 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Is that blood? What kind of revenge fantasies are you having OP?

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Were.

Very much past tense.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2011-12-30 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm happy you're in a much better place, relapse aside. To be honest, those fantasies were probably healthier than many other ways of coping so. The amount of blood just startled me a bit.

[identity profile] hiyami.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 11:30 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, don't listen to the holier-than-thou. Revenge fantasies are what got me through teenage years. (and yeah, my revenge fantasies were pretty full of blood too. That's what makes it cathartic. Forgiveness will only give people the occasion to behave as jerks again)

As long as you didn't act on it, and are now in a better place, I don't see the problem.

OTOH, if the series brings you back to bad memories, you may want to give it up.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-30 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)


People only wanted to talk to spit on me
So I'd paint pictures, draw a little bit
And every time I was pissed off at some kid
I'd get home and draw a little sketch
Of any kid I hated with a knife in the neck
A pencil in the eye and a hole in the back