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fandomsecrets2012-01-06 07:18 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2012-01-06 07:18 pm
[ SECRET POST #1830 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1830 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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32. [SPOILERS for Dead Rising 2: Off The Record]
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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]
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Uh, two of the three episodes last year had him nearly getting killed because the bad guy got one over on him.
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I know everyone thinks his treatment of Anderson or Donovan is hilarious, but it just made me angry. Both of them, especially Sally what with being not only a woman but also black, had to work extremely hard to get into the police force and he just arrives at a crime scene and ridicules them every single time. (Not to mention that outing their affair in front of everyone, however despicable it might be, is incredibly petty and uncalled for.) I can't really fault them for their behaviour towards him.
Or Dimmock. Or Mycroft. Or even John, who's supposed to be someone he cares for.
And I don't mean the friendly jibes, I mean open cruelness. (Hero scene anyone? Or that time he told him to go cry by their bedsides and see what good it does them. He was an army doctor, what does Sherlock think he did.)
Molly doesn't really fall into this scheme but his behaviour towards her is especially inexcusable and some fans saying that he apologised on Christmas eve made it all good just make me shake my head with disbelief. Apologising was the least he could do, given his treatment of her in the earlier season and the cruel comments about her lips and breasts in front of her friends.
I know, I know, he's supposed to be the sociopath, yadda yadda. And if it had been any other show I might have even liked him for being such a collossal twat because sometimes this type of character is refreshing.
But this is Sherlock Holmes we're talking about. Who, in the books, may have been brash or arrogant, but never intentionally cruel.
He comes across as a petulant child who always needs to be right and if he doesn't get his way he'll throw a hissy fit.
So in this case, while his character might have been well written in any other show, in this show he's just a badly written Sherlock Holmes.
And it's starting to bore me that he always comes out having the upper hand, especially in ASIB (even though the issues I had with this episode are of an entirely different nature.)
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I agree. Sherlock is a magnificently cold, callous and childish twat (alliteration, yay). And I am currently reading the original Sherlock Holmes stories at the moment and yes it's huuuuuge exaggeration of the character in canon. But then you could almost say the same about John and Watson. Or Moriarty and Jim. They all fill the roles of their original characters but the point of the series seems to be, for me, is that everything is updated - which means characters as well as setting and technology. Holmes being merely eccentric and slightly manic in the novels was presumably really out of place for Victorian times. Just as this day an age it baffles people how anyone can be so thoughtless or lack any empathy, as it makes them seem less human. But Sherlock's not just a bastard out for his own needs like Blackadder or a coward like Arnold Rimmer. He is still a 'hero' or anti-hero. With a brain like his he could be a criminal mastermind like Moriarty but instead he chooses to help people, even if he claims not to care.
And that's what I find interesting. It's like John says in his blog; "People like to know you're human." They could just have him be a charming, kind, thoughtful person but...that would be so very dull. Having someone who is so ungodly flawed but slowly reveal their humanity is just so fun to watch IMO. Like in TTG, he makes such a song and dance about not caring for who dies as it's all 'just a game'. But his reaction when John is the one in a bomb vest? His sheer quiet panic says it all. And again in ASIB, he tries to act as if Adler didn't get under his skin and that it was just her who let her emotions get the better of her - but in the end he infiltrates a terrorist cell to save her. Something I doubt he would have done if she hadn't charmed him over first.
Sorry that got a bit TL:DR. Basically to me a great character =/= a nice character. Like Lestrade says; "Sherlock Holmes is a great man. And hopefully, one day, he might be a good one." And it's watching that subtle character development that's my favorite part of the show.
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And the fact that he is indeed capable of caring about some people just makes his careless manipulating and treatment of others that much worse to me.
It's entirely different with for example Moriarty. He's set up to be the bad guy and that's why I can enjoy his character, but Sherlock Holmes is still "coded" as the good guy for me and so I can't really come to terms with him behaving like he does.
And I just find it irritating that he's not called out on his behaviour a lot more. He gets away with too much IMO, even if he is the "hero of the show".
But that's just me.
This is a bit OT but I really don't mind people who like him, that would be silly. But the overwhelming majority of the fandom (I can't really speak for livejournal but it's certainly like that on tumblr) just seem to disregard the fact that he's been horrible to literally every single person in the show at least once and make him into someone who either just doesn't understand all these human interactions, the poor sod or someone who just needs a good hug and a cuddle to get him out of his bad moods, and dear god, it makes me want to bang my head against a wall.
If you (as in the general you) want to like his character, go ahead. But at least admit he is insufferable.
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As for Sherlock...yeah, sometimes he really does overstep the mark to the point that it's amazing people are still willing to be around him. Like the scene with Molly at the Christmas party. Good god, was that hard to watch. And yeah, no one calls him out apart from Molly herself (I guess the others have just come to expect that behaviour from him) but to be fair, Sherlock looks genuinely embarrassed and sorry for what he does. And I think that shows he is learning, albeit in veeery small doses.
But yeah, as much as I love to watch him and root for him as 'the hero', I have to admit that he is an arsehole. And anyone who denies how malicious he can be must be watching a different show. To be honest, that's the problem I've had with a lot of the fanfics I've read since getting into this show. So many seem to get Sherlock as, like you say, just some kind of broken bird or naive innocent that it's so hard to get into.
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To which my response is a lovely word I picked up from my eldest: "Saywhatnow?"
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(Anonymous) 2012-01-08 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)And it possibly applies to his treatment of anyone. He never though the audience was supposed to think Sherlock is right to act as he does.