[ SECRET POST #1830 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1830 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Masterchef Australia]


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03.
[Grimm]


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[Cracked.com]


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[Stargate Universe]


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06.
[Skulduggery Pleasant]


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[Young Justice]


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[Chobits]


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[Sailor Moon, Howard Stern]


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[The Wonder Years/How I Met Your Mother]


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[Community]


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[Homestuck]


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[Nutcracker, Motion Picture]


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[David Archuleta]


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[Love Actually]


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[itskingsleybitch]


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18. [repeat]


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[FFVII]


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[Shake it Up/Bones]


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[Sherlock Series 1]


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[Pokemon]


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23. [repeat]


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24.
[Hatoful Boyfriend]


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25.
[Wonder Woman]


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[James Deen]


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[The Iron Giant]


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[Code Geass]


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[Code Geass]


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[Code Geass]


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[Code Geass]


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32. [SPOILERS for Dead Rising 2: Off The Record]



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33. [SPOILERS for Skyrim]



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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for mentions of rape]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[semi-subtle.livejournal.com]

I always thought he fired her because he felt she would be as put off by an advance from him as she was by one from the President. I also never interpreted her apology as driven by her sexual harassment, but more the fact that something she couldn't control came between them. "I'm sorry this happened to us," rather than "I'm sorry that happened to me," in other words.

Also the fat jokes were for comic value because, very obviously, she is not fat. Hence Hugh Grant's like, "Wwwwould we call her chubby?"

[(Anonymous)]

He didn't fire her, but he did transfer her. Even so, does this seem like a nice way to treat someone who's faced sexual harassment? He could've simply ensured that the President never came in contact with her again through other means. Transferring someone out of your sight and citing personality issues doesn't look good on someone's employee record no matter how much you spin it.

I understand that fat jokes can be made for comic value. I don't necessarily agree that this is a wonderful thing, but I understand that people do it. But what bothers me is 1) how harsh the comments are and 2) how that sort of ugly talk is treated as normal.

The latter is particularly chilling. Hugh Grant's rather weak "W..would we call her chubby?" is the closest the film ever comes to saying, "All those fat jokes are not an okay way to treat people" and that makes me sad.

[(Anonymous)]

He didn't transfer her to save her from sexual harrassment. He transferred her because as Prime Minister, his feelings for essentially a secretary were inappropriate. He regretted the decision- chased her down a week or two later. It was a mistake, that's obvious. It's not something that's applauded as the best and correct decision. You don't like that he did that? Neither did David! What's the issue?

The comments are harsh, and ugly, and at the most are played for uncomfortable nervous titters. Not uproarious comic value. We have to look at the characters involved. David is your stereotyped British fellow, who has difficulty expressing himself. He's damn polite. It would have been out of character to have him strangle his assistant for insulting Natalie, or actually have her boyfriend killed for dumping her over weight gain. It would have been out of character to have him raise his voice. Natalie herself clearly had some issues asserting herself. She's a shy gal, probably some self esteem issues there. What is so chilling about two people dealing fairly realistically with society's views of what a woman should look like? I get your problem, but we're supposed to be uncomfortable with how Natalie's coworkers, friends and family regard her. We're supposed to see things from David's point of view: She's perfect, why are these people so asinine. They're antagonistic bad viewpoints. That they even addressed this stupid way of thinking at all in a huge film with a giant ensemble cast and multiple plotlines is good. I'm sorry that you're sad about it. What were you expecting?

[(Anonymous)]

ugh italics fail

[(Anonymous)]

I wasn't the one claiming he transferred her to save her from sexual harassment. I actually think that argument was sort of lame. As for the rest...

He changed his mind, yes. After she apologizes to him for the President sexually harassing her. I'm surprised that doesn't feel more icky to people than it does.

I didn't titter uncomfortably when his assistant made those ugly remarks about the size of Natalie's butt and thighs. I kind of sat back in shock because... well, first those are horrible things to say about someone.

"We have to look at the characters involved. David is your stereotyped British fellow, who has difficulty expressing himself. He's damn polite. It would have been out of character to have him strangle his assistant for insulting Natalie, or actually have her boyfriend killed for dumping her over weight gain. It would have been out of character to have him raise his voice."

So there are no other ways to let your employee know that such remarks are inappropriate and unprofessional besides resorting to physical violence or yelling? I don't think this is true. I also don't think it's unreasonable to expect a Prime Minister to know how to deal with awkward staff conflicts politely and non-violently. People manage this all the time, actually.


I don't find it chilling when two people "deal realistically with society's views of what a woman should look like". I find it chilling that those are society's views, and that they're treated as acceptable-- as if it's perfectly okay to harshly denigrate your co-worker's personal appearance if it doesn't meet with your idea of beauty, and even your boss doesn't feel it necessary to speak up even though the remarks are targeted at the women he supposedly loves.

What was I expecting? Not perfection, certainly. But maybe a little more protest about the idea that it's okay to be hateful toward people we think aren't skinny enough.

[(Anonymous)]

But IIRC she wasn't saying "oh I'm so sorry I got harassed, won't you forgive me?" or some bullshit. She was saying that she was sorry (not as in "apologizing" or taking-the-blame-sorry but sorry as in "sorry for your loss" or "sorry about your hardship" or "damn, I'm sorry you had to go through that, it blows man", which is when a person says sorry even if they know they had absolutely nothing to do with it), that all that bullshit came between them and caused him trouble. Because, you know, she liked him and was sorry (in the sense of being sad and empathetic for him, not self-blaming) to know he was in trouble. She was not saying "I apologize for getting harassed and somehow being directly at fault for all the crap that you went through." They're two totally different things.

[azaelers.livejournal.com]

He transferred her because he basically spat in the President's face in public- an extremely risky political move. And he did it because the President was making untoward advances Natalie.

It wasn't that he was blaming her for being sexually harassed, he was moving her so he wouldn't be liable to do something even more plum-stupid because of personal attachment.

(thankfully he realized love was more important)