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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-08 04:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #1832 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1832 ⌋


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[identity profile] hooves.livejournal.com 2012-01-08 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
It's pretty terrible that we live in a world where criticism is a personal insult, but I do see where you're coming from, and to an extent, I also agree.

I mean, honestly, if I'm unsure about an author-- how they'll handle concrit-- I will go easier on them, point out small things. I might mention bigger things in passing, but I won't go all out beta-reader on them in a review/comment. It's just not worth the risk of possibly provoking someone.

Not that it's not wrong that people get so prickly over constructive criticism, because honestly, people don't spend 30 minutes critiquing your story just to try and hurt you (and if they are, it's called a flame, not concrit), and people should stop to consider that. But some people's feelings are hurt more easily than others, and some people are (GASP) not writing fanfiction as a way of becoming a better writer/perfecting a craft.

To compare: I draw on occasion, but I'm reaaaaalllllllly not interested in detailed artistic criticism. It's a really silly hobby and I don't indulge in it often; I'm a horrible artist and I know this. Hearing that my anatomy is off is probably going to just make me see red--because I already know.

But with writing, I'm always happy to see what works and what doesn't, what meanings I've made clear and which I haven't.

Criticism sucks, yes-- who actually WANTS to be told that there is something wrong-- or several something-- with the story or art they have worked so tirelessly to finish? I usually hang back a teeny bit on authors and wait to see what kind of a person they are before I leave any real criticism. I don't want to scare a new first-attempt author away from writing forever, because I remember how things were when I first decided to write a 'fic. People mature as writers as the years pass, and it can be hard to tell where someone is on the general spectrum without hanging around to see, first.

Not saying you shouldn't critique, OP, but like the above person said, if you're unsure, it might be better to just leave it be. Mostly for your own sanity. You wouldn't stop someone on the street to tell them their shirt was ugly or didn't match their trainers, would you? And it's out in the public for all to see just like fanfiction/fanart is. But if someone beside you said, "Does my shirt match? What do you think?" you would be able to answer politely but honestly if you felt like it, without much fear of retribution.

((Though I'll be the first to say I've seen a lot of authors say they want "concrit" but what they really mean is "asspats". Those people make me angrier than most-- don't SAY you want concrit if you really just want positive feedback.))

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
For me, the issue is far more one of respect and ability. If I see you make constant mistakes in your writing, but you have the audacity to try and correct me? I'm going to say, "Thanks but no thanks". I may or may not even look to see whether you're correct. But if a friend or a really good writer is just trying to help out? I'll take it with a grain of salt, though I will thoroughly research the mistake before changing it.

That's what I think makes a fandom newbie such an aggravation to BNFs: they think they're the best that fandom has to offer and you, o lowly one, can't possibly be correct in correcting them.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
but you have the audacity to try and correct me?
It's audacious to point out something the author may have missed? Chances are they're trying to help you, not one-up you. You sound like kind of an elitist dick.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, i was about to say... you don't have to win a nobel prize before you're ~allowed~ to notice mistakes other people made.