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The whiners are idiots. What's awesome about Shakespeare's plays is that you can interpret in so many different settings, and they still work. They're timeless that way. I saw Much Ado About Nothing staged as a Western and it was a successful interpretation.

I would love to see that.

It was awesome. When Don John first entered, they played the theme from The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. And Leonato owned a saloon and his brother was the bartender.

Well, that sounds amazing. :O

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hermione-vader.livejournal.com - 2012-01-12 05:14 (UTC) - Expand

Branagh's version is brilliant and beautiful. I'm still excited as anything about Whedon's version. Why can't you love both? Or at least be open to loving both? Geez.

If you can't ever make new interpretations of Shakespeare plays, the entire acting/singing/performing world has been doing it wrong for centuries.

I didn't know about that new version, but I agree with this secret. I'm sure Shakespeare would have loved it.

I never liked Much Ado. It felt way too much like a weak rehash of Shrew. #mytwocents

See I like Much Ado better because Benedick likes Beatrice's sass and doesn't force her to change.

This right here is why I like Much Ado and hate Taming. -_-;

There's an argument to be made that the speech by Kate is completely sarcastic, but I'm sure you've heard it.

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But she does change. The minute Beatrice is led to think Benedick likes her, she stops being sassy and goes all moony. He undergoes the same 180. I don't remember much about the B-plot (or was it the A-plot?), but I know there were other things that I found jarring. (The professor who had us read Much Ado insisted that they had secretly liked each other all along, but I didn't get that vibe at all...well, maybe from Benedick. And this is the same professor who tried to convince me that sexual coercion isn't rape, so fuck anything he ever said.)

it's been a very long time since I last read/watched Much Ado about Nothing, but wasn't it implied that Beatrice and Benedick had a relationship in the past and that they still had residual feelings for each other because of it?

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Well, not being in any fandoms relating to this I didn't know there were whiners, but I totally agree with you, OP. That's part of the genius of Shakespeare - that his work can be interpreted and re-interpreted again and again.

Are people really whining about that? The Branagh version is great, but definitely isn't totally flawless (I'm looking at you, Keanu), and... it's been almost 20 years. I think we can stand another version.

Of course, this is my favourite play, so I'll cheerfully see as many versions of it as exist. ;D

I agree with you that's a stupid reason to be against the film. That said, I'm personally not interested because I don't like Whedon's direction and casting.

Having never actually read the play before, I saw the Tate and Tennat version last week and I looooved it. But I'm still excited to see what Whedon will do with the story.

Wait, there are people saying that only one version is allowed?! LOL QUE

All I know is my brother is going to make me watch it and then demand that I think it is pure gold.

I'm so sick of hearing about Joss Whedon...

I don't have an opinion about this either and won't until I see it. But it's kinda ridiculous for people to whine about it because Branagh's version already exists. I agree with OP that Shakespeare is meant to be interpreted, but also that movie is pretty ancient. It's been almost 10 years!

*20 haha I can't count and I knew it was early 90s too...

Wait... people are complaining about a new film version of a Shakespeare play... because there's already a film of it?
What. o_O I think this is an instance where 'no true Scotsman' applies.

For what it's worth, I think the Branagh movie is terrible (actually I think all his Shakespeare movies are glorified vanity projects, especially Hamlet which, good lord, does not need to be four hours long but now I am digressing), so I'm looking forward to this. Having said that, I'm not a huge fan of Much Ado anyway so it is possible that I'm excited purely because it's Whedon. But also kind of apprehensive because, to make a terrible but true generalisation, Americans can't do Shakespeare.

especially Hamlet which, good lord, does not need to be four hours long

It's four hours long because he went full-text. The full text itself takes four hours to perform (although Will himself probably would have cut some scenes out to save time at any particular performance). I think Branagh's version is the only film version that doesn't cut anything out, which is probably worth something (if only for high school English teachers, at the very least).

oh no, I am aware of that (it runs to approximatively 4000 lines, making it the longest play by a stretch), I just think - as you said - just because it IS four hours long, doesn't mean it NEEDS to be, that's just bad storytelling. By the way, Hamlet is my favourite play ever in the world ever, so I say this advisedly - even I would get restless sitting through uncut versions of scenes like Polonius and Reynaldo in 2.2 (I think it's 2.2).