[ SECRET POST #1835 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1835 ⌋


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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I never liked Much Ado. It felt way too much like a weak rehash of Shrew. #mytwocents

[pimpmytardis.livejournal.com]

See I like Much Ado better because Benedick likes Beatrice's sass and doesn't force her to change.

[loracarol.livejournal.com]

This right here is why I like Much Ado and hate Taming. -_-;

[meadowphoenix]

There's an argument to be made that the speech by Kate is completely sarcastic, but I'm sure you've heard it.

[loracarol.livejournal.com]

I've heard it, but I've personally just never seen it. :/

On the flip side, I really enjoy "Ten Things I Hate About You", so... |D

[(Anonymous)]

But she does change. The minute Beatrice is led to think Benedick likes her, she stops being sassy and goes all moony. He undergoes the same 180. I don't remember much about the B-plot (or was it the A-plot?), but I know there were other things that I found jarring. (The professor who had us read Much Ado insisted that they had secretly liked each other all along, but I didn't get that vibe at all...well, maybe from Benedick. And this is the same professor who tried to convince me that sexual coercion isn't rape, so fuck anything he ever said.)

[(Anonymous)]

it's been a very long time since I last read/watched Much Ado about Nothing, but wasn't it implied that Beatrice and Benedick had a relationship in the past and that they still had residual feelings for each other because of it?

[(Anonymous)]

/shrug/ I think I do recall that bit. It reconciles the relationship a little for me, but I don't know. I guess the root of what I'm getting at is, something about the play just didn't feel sincere to me. Don't get me wrong, I think Petruchio is a slimy git, and in my head-canon Katarina poisoned his drink after making her little speech at the end, but if nothing else, I felt the plot of Shrew was less shallow and rushed.

I guess my issue had less to do with the main couple and more that the play as a whole didn't 'resonate' with me the way Taming of the Shrew did. Personal preference, then.

[roguebelle.livejournal.com]

Yup.

Pedro: Come, lady; you have lost the heart of Signior Benedick.

Beatrice: Indeed, my lord, he lent it me awhile; and I gave him use for it, a double heart for his single one: marry, once before he won it of me with false dice, therefore your grace may well say I have lost it.

Plus her comments about him ending with "a jade's trick". These are people who've loved before, been burned by it, and learn to overcome that.

[vethica.livejournal.com]

They're both still pretty sassy afterwards. "Thou and I are too wise to woo peaceably", anyone?

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

IDK Beatrice is still pretty sassy afterwards. I mean, there's still sort of some suspension of disbelief required at their sudden flip-flop of affection (and precisely how much suspension of disbelief there is depends on the quality of the production), but I wouldn't say she loses that edge.

[visp.livejournal.com]

What?

Benedick: "Come, I will have thee, but by this light, I take thee for pity"

Beatrice: "I would not deny you, but by this good day, I yield upon great persuasion, and partly to save your life, for I was told you were in a consumption"

That's not moony. And the thing is, everyone else in the group realizes that they like each other, that's why the setup works.