[ SECRET POST #1837 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1837 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02. [broken link]


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[Robin Of Sherwood/Michael Praed]


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[Glee]


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[We Got Married - Ga In (Brown Eyed Girls)/Jo Kwon (2AM)]


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[Buzz Lightyear of Star Command]


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09. http://i.imgur.com/8DbqS.png
[linked for nudity/kind of porny]


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[Josh Groban and Andrea Bocelli]


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[Beast Wars, Megatron]


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[Magic Mike]


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16. [repeat]


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[Harry Potter & Little House on the Prairie]


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[X-Men: First Class]


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[Death Note]


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25. [SPOILERS for something, OP did not specify]



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26. [SPOILERS for Vampire Hunter D]



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27. [SPOILERS for Christmas Doctor Who and New Year's Sherlock]



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28. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]
[SPOILERS for Loveless]



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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse]



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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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31. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, animal cruelty]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #262.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well, first of all, you didn't frame your statment as a comment on a general perception; you clearly stated it was your own personal opinion, and that was why I made my assumption. If you've had these experiences, you should know that animals aren't helpless and operate on powerful instincts. And my point was precisely that what animals do they do based on instinct. However, that has to apply to anything violent as well as anything percived as loving. If an animal can't be "guilty," it can't be "innocent." Animals simply do not have the mental capicity to differentiate or to suffer long-term trauma to the depth and degree that humans do.

[followthemoth.livejournal.com]

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There is plenty of evidence that animals mourn, remember and feel. More than just Michael's story. Have you ever witnessed an animal after the loss of a loved one? They're devasted. Animals have returned to graves of their loved ones to queitly mourn, years after, even bringing small tokens and gifts. There's a lot of examples that disprove your statement, but Michael's is probably one of the strongest.

[(Anonymous)]

If you are willing to give significant weight to these behaviors, then what's to stop you from labeling any violent or destructive behaviors as malicious or cruel? My point wasn't that animals don't experince any feelings of attatchment or loss, simply that they are not comparable to a human's.

[followthemoth.livejournal.com]

That's fair. I don't think we should but labels like more or less on human vs. animal behaviour; they're just different.

Sorry if I misunderstood your point.

[(Anonymous)]

simply that they are not comparable to a human's.

Why not?

[replicantangel.livejournal.com]

You're right. I muddled my argument there. My apologies. Similarly, I was not clear that were you talking solely about instinctual reactions - it sounded like you equated the mental state of a mauling animal to that of a human abuser. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Overall though, I do still believe that animals are powerless in comparison to humans - even physically more powerful animals such as tigers can be abused. Humans have the higher though processes to dominate even the more physically powerful, and that unfortunately sometimes leads to abuse. Getting off topic there though.

I was using the word 'innocence', not in the guilt/innocent way, but in the sense of a lack of guile or awareness. In that sense, they are innocent, just as small children are. And that's my point, muddled as it may have been - they are our intellectual inferiors. The abuse of something that can't comprehend the reasons for it, much less be capable of anything but instinctual reaction (violent or not), is perceived of as worse than the abuse of someone that can.