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fandomsecrets2012-01-13 07:20 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2012-01-13 07:20 pm
[ SECRET POST #1837 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1837 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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I think that perception is what makes people more sensitive to one than to the other.
Look. There are two different levels to look at here; the perception that people have and what the actual truth is. They are separate matters and need to be treated as such. To say that what the Nazis did is perceived as worse than other genocides (or "on a different level" if you must insist on that wording, but stop playing games with me, you know as well as I do that it's synonymous with "worse") is fine, but it's not the same as saying what the Nazis did was worse than other genocides ("on a different level", what the fuck ever). The latter is honestly offensive IMO, as it downplays the tragedy of the lives lost in other genocides.
Agreed. But perception is what makes people react differently, so perception is the interesting thing to discuss.
No, it's not a synonym and I didn't mean it like that. It's not my place to judge what's worse and I really don't need to. I am interested on the reasons why this perception is so widespread. I never said that what the Nazis did is worse. The OP was mad about people considering the Nazis worse than the Soviet Union and I think there are reasons why this is so common in the Western. The fact that there are reasons has nothing to do with the immorality of the act itself but how people reacted to it.
Again, I don't have any need to say what's worse because the lost of human lives is a regrettable event every time and genocide is unjustifiable every time. But that is not what I am talking about, even if you don't want to believe me.
If anything, it would be useful to understand the impact of the Holocaust in our collective conscience and to try to develop more awareness about the Soviet crimes.
I would like yo agree with you but history is filled with normal people who kill without feeling guilt. Many of of heroes killed without a speck of guilt. I agree that's scary and inconceivable and that's why, in our times, when it happens it is so baffling. But I can't agree that it's beyond humanity to do so because that's making things simpler than they are.
I'll give an example: the Crusade against the Cathars. The people who murder thousands of innocent people were absolutely convinced that they were right and that they were doing God's will. They were perfectly normal humans who, in that particular context committed an horrendous crime. To think of them as beyond humanity is to miss the chance to understand why it happened and learn from it.
The same with the Nazis. The vast majority of them were normal, non-psychopathic humans. And yet they did what they did. It can't be attributed to personal reasons, there has to be something else there, something that we can dissect.