[ SECRET POST #1839 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1839 ⌋


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Comments

[kindlycoyote.livejournal.com]

My issue is that they made her funny in one of the most despised and harmful female stereotypes. Seriously, you can't really defend that.

I kinda wish that they had made her a over-the-top tomboy. You know, spitting, no feminine charm, etc. At least that would have had a slight amount of her old character in it, and it's not like we are lacking in more traditionally feminine hilarious characters (like the Granny, for instance).

I just think that the stereotype of the HILARIOUS female stalker is old and stupid. So, yeah. I like the Lola better... especially considering that cliche wasn't old or overused at the time they made it. *shrugs* She was fun. And they couldn't flesh her out in a movie that wasn't even about her. I mean, all the other characters had years to build their personality. She had one movie that was focused on a star basketball player.

[(Anonymous)]

Because the original was not a female stereotype at all...

[(Anonymous)]

Sure it was. It was the Sexy Femme Fatale stereotype (covered in fur).

[boxlunch33.livejournal.com]

I can see how the depiction of a female being stalker-like and obsessed could be harmful, and honestly I usually don't go for those kinds of characters. However, I disagree when people say that the way the new Lola is depicted is harmful. Bugs is still attracted to her on some level, for the most part she's generally fairly nice, and a lot of her tactics are so ridiculous and over the top ala I Love Lucy that I can't take them seriously. It doesn't come across to me as 'lol women, amirite?' - and I'm usually the first to get offended at that business - but rather 'wow, that specific person is really crazy.' Like all the other characters. It's not like Looney Tunes has ever been made up of positive role models...to be honest it was its biting humor that made it standout from the rest. Not to mention, animators who grew up on the classic Looney Tunes have never been fond of Lola. I'm not surprised that they'd want to flip her completely upside down.

Aren't over-the-top tomboys usually the ones that always get played for laughs though? Like Toph from Avatar? Girls who are more like boys are allowed to be funny, but feminine girls aren't allowed to be? The stereotype that I always found hurtful was that pretty, feminine women aren't funny, that comedy on women is unattractive. People always joke about female stand-up comedians being unattractive. For me personally I find it refreshing when a character in a skirt can be just as funny as a guy in pants.

I do agree that the female stalker archetype is played out too much, but I personally am not bothered by the way it's played out here. Coming from another source, maybe, I would have been offended. If this was a character who was established, well-rounded, and never exhibited stalker-like behavior before, yes, I'd be offended. To me though Lola never had a character to ruin in the first place, they didn't give her one in the first place. If they weren't going to devote the time to flesh her out in Space Jam, why have her there at all? People talk about her being this strong character, and yet she goes from scoffing at Bugs to swooning over him after he rescues her. Something everyone always gets sore about in a Disney movie, but not here for some reason. Also, the original characters also only had a brief amount of time to show who they were, their cartoons were only five to eight minutes long, yet even the characters that only show up in maybe three cartoons were established instantly. I just didn't get that with Lola.

[mandyseley.livejournal.com]

Ugh, Lola's sudden switch in Space Jam was so... yikes. Even though she's played as being "strong" it's obvious her purpose was to be eye candy to Bugs and eventually to fall for him so the "main character" can get a girl at the end, as the formula demands.

I don't mind if people don't like New Lola, but I'll never believe that Old Lola was a better or more interesting character.

[insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com]

bless both of you. Bastions of sanity in this secret.

I like new Lola. But I can see where people could dislike her.

What I can't see is how anybody could argue old Lola was interesting. I mean, she was clearly a movie character. No way that personality and character could actually be used regularly and sucessfully in an ongoing show.