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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-19 07:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #1843 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1843 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 50 secrets from Secret Submission Post #263.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] intrigueing.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of fiction is based on other fiction. Someone (I forget who) once said all great art is plagiarized. Just because you wrote it as actual fanfic before you changed it up doesn't make it any worse than everyone -- including loads and loads of awesome writers who would not be awesome writers without the influence of the books they read before they started writing -- who rips off ideas from old books and writes new ones. If you can make a changed-up fanfic into an original story with the names and obvious identifiers stripped out, the core ideas are obviously original, even if they were inspired by a pre-existing fandom.
ext_19953: (i've frequently not been on boats)

[identity profile] mutantjules.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Jim Jarmusch (I posted it a little bit down the thread)

[identity profile] intrigueing.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
That's a GREAT quote! And so true. I think a lot of (well done) things that are heavily influenced by an earlier work are sometimes, like, second drafts. They fix everything wrong with the first one and keep everything right with it and add in more awesome. The adding in more original awesome is pretty important, but still, a lot of times a work written by someone who didn't come up with the original idea is frequently (not all or even most of the time, but frequently) a lot better and deeper and more insightful and used to better effect (see: almost everything Shakespeare has ever written).

(Anonymous) 2012-01-20 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
If you can make a changed-up fanfic into an original story with the names and obvious identifiers stripped out, the core ideas are obviously original, even if they were inspired by a pre-existing fandom.

which then makes a sad statement about fanfiction. if you're writing fanfiction and change the names and a few things about 'canon' and have it be a different story, clearly characterization has blown out the window and why the hell were you writing fanfiction to begin with?

there was a reason why the search and replace the names mode of fanfiction writing used to be frowned on. now it appears people will buy crap, eat shit but if it's a 'popular' fandom writer, they act like it's made of pure honey.

[identity profile] intrigueing.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I don't like it either, but if it's used as a technique to make original stories, hey, I'm all for it. It probably won't make very good fanfic, but sometimes people find it easier when they have a set starting point even if they don't plan to stick to it.