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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-19 07:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #1843 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1843 ⌋


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[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, missed your comment!

Anyway, the two constants I figured out from when I was researching for my own vampire book in-the-works and read a huge dictionary of vampires, were these:

1: Must have some form of symbiotic connection to the night. Whether this manifests in their true nature being revealed by night, strength gained from the moon (such as in "The Vampyre"), or their primary means of hunting, etc.

2: The option of being a parasitic feeder. Which means that though they can kill their prey right off the bat, they have the ability to slowly feed off of it over time. Whether this is feeding off blood, energy, or etc is irrelevant.

Twilight vampires hunt mostly on cloudy days and we do not see them having any kind of relationship with the Night, or even darkness. In fact, their sparkliness puts them into the day category quite firmly. It is also impossible for them to feed off their prey without killing them or turning them naturally.

Now, depending on the narrative and how many other 'vampire-y traits' you have going you can usually get away with violating one of these. But both is pushing it, especially when you do some crazy things with the narrative.

Seriously though, if Meyer had made them pagan gods? That would have been kinda awesome. (Many pagan gods were said to have shone, many required at times blood sacrifices, etc.) Then again if she couldn't research vampires well enough... yeah, probably a good thing she didn't touch on that.
Edited 2012-01-20 03:52 (UTC)

[identity profile] fae-boleyn.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Pagan gods would have been brilliant, or even an original immortal being. Though I actually thought it wasn't a research fail, but a conscious defiance of most vampire traits. It might also have been both. I mean, I give the "sparkly vampire" thing points for going against the grain in terms of sunlight = death, but it was a really bad method for doing so. Which makes me sad, because while I agree with the constants you mentioned, the sunlight = death trait is very prevalent and I like turning things on their head. But not when said turning is badly done.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. And the only reason I call it a research fail is because in interviews she has said that she only googled vampires for research. (I was in a Vampires in Literature; From Dracula to Twilight course in college. For the Twilight portion I engaged in some epic hating which made me dig up all the interviews. I have since let a lot of it go, but the knowledge is still there.)

And yesssss. I really don't mind changing up the constraints, and I really dislike the sunlight = death trope (Except in works like Near Dark. Exploding vampire western? ...AWESOME), but the whole disco-ball thing... Especially since it only works in direct natural light? What?

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
My personal theory is that the twilight vamps have fae blood in them, and that's why they sparkle in natural light, but of course, that's just my theory, lol. |D

[identity profile] romanticide-xd.livejournal.com 2012-01-22 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
there are faeries that drain humans lifeforce, hell even drink blood. If you told me the vampires in twilight are actually fairies I would bat an eye.

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-01-22 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
Well, me theory is that they were once fae, but the "real" vampires started turning fae in a twisted joke, only for the faepires to slowly have none of the weaknesses that "real" vampires have, and thus the "real" vampires screwed themselves over.

So, I mean, Twipires aren't fae per se... But far that were turned and it's a long story, lol. |D

[identity profile] romanticide-xd.livejournal.com 2012-01-23 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I like that idea XD A lot XD even if it's about twilight XD

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-01-23 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I was thinking far to much about it, lol. |D