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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-22 02:42 pm

[ SECERT POST #1846 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1846 ⌋


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[identity profile] mika-kun.livejournal.com 2012-01-22 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that Bruce is a dick a lot of the time, but I'm going to mention that the whole situation with Jason is an emotional minefield for everyone involved. Yeah, you can make a hierarchy of whose got it worse, but at the end of the day even the least fucked up person involved is really badly fucked up about it and hurting. People say and do stupid dick-ish things when they're hurting that bad.

Also, how Bruce feels about killing isn't exactly *NOT* relevant when Jason is trying to get *Bruce* to kill the Joker and not just let Jason do it.

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2012-01-23 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
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Basically. And even then, Bruce had to try to make Jason understand somehow. That's hard as hell and it comes out dickish, but IMO, he was trying to get Jason to understand that it's not that he hasn't ever considered killing the Joker, that he didn't want to kill him for killing Jason -- he did, and he DOES want to do these things. Killing his enemies would be easy. Killing the Joker to avenge Jason would have been super easy and satisfying. But that's why he knows he can't ever do it.

Jason felt betrayed that Bruce never killed the Joker for taking him away from him, and that he wouldn't even do it now. That he couldn't convince him to. Bruce needed to let him know that it wasn't a flippant decision -- it's a difficult decision he makes all the time, but one that is incredibly important.

But there's no easy, non-jerkish way to tell your murdered son that it's personally important to you that you DON'T kill his murderer, and that it's an incredibly difficult decision to have had to make, and continue to make. I don't like Batman all that much, and I think he's a dick most of the time, and there are certain things I resent him for -- but this isn't one of them. I wouldn't know what to do if I were in his shoes in this situation.
Edited 2012-01-23 10:17 (UTC)