[ SECRET POST #1847 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1847 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Women are forced to deal with being treated like a sexualised object for pretty much their entire lives. If you asked women to share their experiences with being heckled in the street or approached by men who made them uncomfortable by commenting on their appearance, you'd be surprised how many experienced this before they hit puberty (and many of those will assure you that there was no way they even looked like they'd hit puberty). A lot of girls are subjected to this treatment before they even understand what sex is.

Yes, two wrongs don't make a right, and I can understand why men being objectified would make you uncomfortable.

But there are many number of places where men are encouraged to objectify women, to the point where it's probably easier to list situations and scenarios where they aren't encouraged to do so. This happens online, sure - there are plenty of female fans of comic books and video games, but they often stay away from forums dedicated to those mediums because those forums are so aggressive in their misogynistic attitudes. But it also happens in the real world. Teenage boys leer at girls in school, bosses discuss the sexual availability of their female employees with male colleagues, men in bars think they have the right to touch women without their consent. This behaviour is constant, and these examples are bearly even beginning to scratch the surface of what a woman can expect on any given day.

In comparison, I can't really get angry at women making those kinds of comments in their corners of their particular fandoms.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Thank you. I didn't have it in me to explain this yet again, so I'm glad someone else did.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

Like you say, two wrongs don't make a right. But why are women being called out for these comments when it's basically the *norm* for men to make these kind of comments? It *is* a double-standard, because men and women are capable of this behaviour, but women are made to feel ashamed for it whilst it's celebrated in male culture.

[broadwaybabe11.livejournal.com]

In general, women are shamed for having sexual fantasies and their own sexuality in general while men are not.
Talking about fantasies doesn't bother me, like it does the OP, but when people make comments toward others or do things above commenter mentioned it does. For men and women.
But, anyway, it's supposedly only ok for men to have fantasies and talk about them openly. >.>

[oflittlebrain.livejournal.com]

this.

[dragonsofeden.livejournal.com]

Flawless comment.

[visp.livejournal.com]

Yeah, pretty much this. One has a whole history of real life issues to it, the other one doesn't, so it's understandable that one is seen as less ok than the other.

[sadiekate.livejournal.com]

I wish I had more thumbs so I could give this comment more than two thumbs up.

[zombieroadtrip.livejournal.com]

Fantastic comment

[djmayhem-aubrey.livejournal.com]

UGH, THIS. I have to deal with skeevy guys (and the occasional skeevy girl) so often at the bar I work (I run a karaoke show two nights a week), it's not funny. I've been dealing with it for going on nine years now, and for the longest time, it actually put me off dating. Literally so much sexual harassment that by the time I really realized what it was, in some ways, it was too late to do anything about it. I know it's wrong to subject ANYONE to sexual harassment, but I sort of have no sympathy for assholes who end up on the receiving end of it. Let them get a little taste of what they've been dishing out since forever, so long as it doesn't become dangerous. (... Why yes, I can be a tad vindictive, but I don't wish real harm on anyone.)