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⌈ Secret Post #1847 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Okay. If anyone is wondering why men ogling women is more harmful than women ogling men, and it's not a double standard, it's because we live in a society that has pretty much institutionalized a rape culture towards women. I know women who are afraid of walking in some places outside alone because they are genuinely afraid of being catcalled or sexually harassed (me included). I have never known any men who have felt this same threat from women.

I know it's so tempting to say "but what about men?" in sexist arguments, but it's not that simple. I acknowledge that men can be sexually harassed by women, and it's something that should never happen, but men do not face the same sexual objectification and violence from the opposite gender in our society

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly! Lately I have been feeling like it would be nice to go for a jog or walk in the early morning before the sun gets too high and it's too hot to bother. Unfortunately, I don't feel safe enough jogging my myself at that time of day because the one time I did I was made to feel uncomfortable and targeted by men and there aren't enough other people around to make me feel safety in numbers. So instead I don't exercise.

My brothers, on the other hand, have never had this problem and they don't get it at all. (I don't go with them because I'm not fit enough to keep up with them)

[(Anonymous)]

That's really sad to hear :(
I have my dogs who always keep me company when I go for jogs and walks. One of them is a large "mean" looking mutt and the other one is actually a trained guard dog (she's old though).

Back when I didn't have them I was too afraid to go alone (even with pepper spray). I can so relate to that feeling.
I used to get "bouncy bouncy" a lot and stupid wolf whistling and one time a guy even ran after me "jokingly". Now that my dogs are with me people even make way for me.

[(Anonymous)]

But it's disturbing to reduce anyone to a sexual object. I understand the rape culture and everything, but I think humans should be treated as people, not just an object of sexual lust - and that goes for both genders.

And just to be a pain, I'll add that I have known men who have felt the same, and who have been catcalled and sexually harassed. It's definitely not as common, but it happens, and is rarely ever acknowledged or talked about.

[dragonsofeden.livejournal.com]

But it's disturbing to reduce anyone to a sexual object.

This statement assumes that objectification is a fixed state -- that once you focus on someone's physical beauty, you can never go back to appreciating them in a 'purer' way. I've always felt it's a pretty clear fallacy: it's fairly common (and often desired) to tell your girlfriend she is smoking in her brand new dress. That doesn't mean you don't appreciate her intellect outside the bedroom, or that you only view her as a walking pair of tits.

[broadwaybabe11.livejournal.com]

This. It simply isn't the same.
Since I got to college a few months ago, there have been like 7 rapes of girls here. I feel scared of walking alone pretty much all the time. I doubt there's a male at my school who feels the same.

[mskye.livejournal.com]

D:

I hope that your college is trying to do something about that!

[sandor051.livejournal.com]

Going to tackle this idea right now.

I can't speak for the specifics of your Uni, so maybe this isn't the case, but young men are the number one target of violence.

This obviously isn't sexual in nature, but I would be hard pressed to find a single man who grew up in my area who wasn't at one point or another jumped, mugged, or gotten a kicking just for kicks.

(all the other posts about the difference between male/female objectification are spot on though)