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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-25 05:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #1849 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1849 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 43 secrets from Secret Submission Post #264.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-01-25 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2012-01-25 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The first two I can see contributing to that, but the third one? Not so much.

[identity profile] billybobfred0.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I can easily see the amount of fanfic one reads contributing to their speech patterns.

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but this secret implies that the op found the super sweet cache of fanfic with EXCELLENT ENGLISH.

Or at least has very good taste. Because 90% of the time, you get this:

Edited 2012-01-26 01:08 (UTC)

[identity profile] billybobfred0.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
The super sweet 10% totally exists! It's just hard to find, because, well, 10%.

[identity profile] unicornherds.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Reading helps increase your vocabulary. So unless you're reading really horrid fic with over simplistic writing or spelling errors galore, fanfic will help your vocabulary.

[identity profile] box-life.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Man, just about the only way to have a good vocabulary is to read a lot. I've never known anyone who actually improved their vocabulary by reading those stupid "increase your word power!" sort of books or by leafing through the dictionary.

And if you read GOOD stuff (yeah, even good fanfiction) it seems only natural you pick up good ways to use words.

I guess the period dramas help too, but with me, I wouldn't even understand what the characters were talking about half the time if I weren't a big reader.

[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
It's just a much more natural way to learn language - see it used in context to pick up the meaning, and memorize it through lots of natural repetition. Trying to consciously memorize more than a handful of words from a learning program or dictionary seems like a pointlessly uphill battle. It's necessary if you're learning a new language and you don't know enough to read and pick up new words, but for your native language it doesn't make sense to me.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I wouldn't call him RACIST but it is pretty naive to assume you can actually write a character to be "raceless"
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[identity profile] visp.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure you can delete comments here. But the moment of "how does race factor into this" was kinda amusing.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
... Reading classics makes you pathetic? Hun, no. It makes you smart and well-educated. Being well-educated means reading a lot of stuff usually, from textbooks to news to literature and etc.

And besides, your friends probably assume it's because you read a lot. Unless your friends think that being smart automatically means you talk smart, in which case I don't think I have met many people irl who actually think that. Most people say 'oh, you must read a lot!' when I go off on one of my spiels about a subject.

And heck op, BE PROUD! I personally talk (in real life) like someone out of a Jane Austen novel because of my obsession with her books for four years of my life. Which causes much giggling among others when I drop the F bomb, because as my cousin said- 'You just enunciate it so well! It's like hearing Elizabeth Bennet drop the F bomb.'But regardless, you should be proud that you sound smart and that you ARE smart, and knowledgable. Because you read and have a brain (well, I assume you are intelligent because most people who love classics are). This is good, not pathetic!

And reading good fanfiction is also a good thing. It means you have standards!

*reposted because I saw one comment and thought I posted in the wrong section. Whoops.*

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with all of this. It makes me wish I had read more classical novels when I was younger instead of bad manga translations. Of course I can't say reading a great deal of Hitchhiker and Discworld hurt my vocabulary. Not terribly anyway.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
There is still time to change things! I am still picking up vocabulary from books and TV. I can't tell you how many times I have said 'Frick!' in real life, and I didn't start watching Scrubs until three years ago. Our brains are awesome sponges of doom.

But Hitchhiker and Discworld are AWESOME, and those writer's vocab is wonderfully amazing.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so jealous. When I was younger I was a voracious reader of poorly translated (i.e. very literal) manga scans, so unfortunately I picked up a few bizarre phrases that I can't seem to get rid of. I sure wish I'd been interested in classic novels and period films. It would have been nice to have picked up some classier vocabulary.

[identity profile] elica.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
So, read them now. What's stopping you ?

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm, I didn't phrase my first post quite right. I did read enough classical novels (and vocabulary-heavy contemporary novels) to give me a decent vocabulary, but my main concern is that my speech patterns and phrasing were somewhat ruined. Now my favorite expressions, phrasing, and speech patterns have become fairly fixed--and sadly they're not very sophisticated. I've tried to change my speaking style, but nothing ever seems to stick.

[identity profile] nomorefrostbite.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
OP, idek how reading classic novels and watching period films makes you pathetic in the slightest.

Especially reading classic novels actually makes you cultured and highly literate - neither of which are bad things or worthy of any embarassment.

More people should be like you in this regard!
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[identity profile] sensualcoco.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
I love when I'm reading fanfiction and come across and new word. I can google it right then and there and it helps me remember more than if I were to come across it in conversation or a book where I only had context clues.

I don't see any of that as pathetic but if you don't want people knowing just say you read a lot.

[identity profile] miss-makiba.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I have the same thing, I believe, except my vocabulary doesn't bother my friends (I have a lot of linguistics/English major friends) and it mainly just helps me win at scrabble. :)

[identity profile] cloud-riven.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Just means you read a lot. This is a good thing :)

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
I have kind of a similar issue with translating Japanese idioms and whatnot into English literally because I can't think of the English equivalent (if there is one). Except while your vocabulary makes you sound smart, mine makes me sound like an idiot. For example, the other day I said, "It sounds like her heart is wide." (The term I was looking for is "bighearted.") I knew I shouldn't have studied Japanese.

Anyway, don't be ashamed of how you speak! Your idiolect is a part of you. There's nothing wrong with having a broad vocabulary, no matter how you came by it.
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[identity profile] visp.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
People who read more (including a lot of well-written literature) and watch movies with people speaking well are better with words? Shocking! In other news, people who spend a lot of time lifting weights are strong, and water is wet. Seriously, how else would your vocabulary improve?

[identity profile] lilya7.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
Kudos to you, OP! And you're not pathetic, that's called "having a hobby" (in your case, reading and watching movies)
How's that not normal?

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
So ... your language is influenced by what you read?

Congratulations! You're the 99 percent!