[ SECRET POST #1849 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1849 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's part of what has pissed me off about art students in general. Too many of them seem completely unaware that what they know is specialized knowledge and not everyone has it, what they do is a skill they developed that other people didn't choose to, and that not everyone who doodles is aiming to make a living from it. So we suck. So we're 'wasting' our efforts on fanart. So we can't always tell if the lighting is spot on or if the CG in the latest big budget animation feature is really top notch. So what? Maybe they're just jealous that we still get to draw for fun but they can't go performing appendectomies for shits and giggles.

/ranty-rant

[childings.livejournal.com]

Eh well by the same token nobody is forcing you to share your artwork on the internet either
I'm not saying it's okay for people to be mean, just that if you're going to draw you have to have somewhat thicker skin

[(Anonymous)]

I've written fic for over a decade, sugar, I've been flamed, critiqued and made fun of, my skin's quite as thick as it needs to be. I'm not talking about meanness for the sake of being mean, I'm talking about snooty ass art students who think that the only reason to draw at all is to go pro with it. Fanfic writers grasp that most people are doing it for kicks. Fanart needs to catch up.

[sensualcoco.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I don't understand that mentality. You'd think if anybody would understand how much of a skill it is, it'd be them(us?) If a person's obviously doing it just for fun, I go with the "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all" guideline. If they they're asking for a critique, trying to improve or obviously want to do art as a job then I give then I go with constructive criticism. Personally I always focus on the positive, that's what seems to encourage people to improve.

[malik-chan.livejournal.com]

But if someone doesn't want crit, they can easily say so.

[(Anonymous)]

It's more polite to wait for someone to say they do want critique, rather than to give it just because they never said they didn't.

[malik-chan.livejournal.com]

Except it makes sense to just say it anyway because this is the internet, saying it ahead of time skips all the unwarranted bullshit. If someone doesn't say anything, I assume that they don't mind receiving them because they didn't say anything. Saying they don't want them in the first place is a safeguard for both of us: they don't baw and I don't have to deal with their whining if they do reply.

[(Anonymous)]

Absence of a 'no' is not a 'yes'.

[malik-chan.livejournal.com]

It is to me!

[(Anonymous)]

You mean the kind of art students who, when you respond with something like, "Thank you for the critique but I'm happy enough with it as is," act like you shot their mom and fucked their dog?

I think part of the problem with them is that they probably spend so much time only talking to other art students, they get the idea that everybody knows what they know and everybody should approach art like they do. Because everybody they know does. A bit insular, the art world looks sometimes.

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

This is the impression I get. God help you if you don't think studying human anatomy is the most worthwhile pastime ever.

[malik-chan.livejournal.com]

So you see no point in improving as well? Because that what it sounds like.

lol the jealous argument. That's cute. I go to school for animation, I can still draw things for fun and for myself, but I don't want to draw like shit and accept crit when I get it.

[(Anonymous)]

So you see no point in improving as well? Because that what it sounds like.
There you go being a typical snot-nosed art student, acting like my disinterest is a problem for YOU. You're trying to make a living off it. I'm just trying to relax. The process can do that for me even if the product turns out like shit, and I appreciate having at least one thing in my life where nothing's at stake if it's not the best. Try to get out in the world a little more. There are so many skills other people have to prioritize.

[malik-chan.livejournal.com]

No, I can't comprehend why no one would want to improve their skill at doing something they enjoy. When someone puts model kits together for fun, don't they want to make it look as good as they can make it? If someone knits, don't they want the things they knit to look nice and not look like a jumbled mess?

[(Anonymous)]

You don't have to be good at something to enjoy doing it. This thing you're doing right here, snidely acting like AYRT is somehow less of a person because they put their effort into everything but art, that's why people hate pushy art student types. Thanks for demonstrating the problem so clearly.

[malik-chan.livejournal.com]

lol ok because that comment of mine was so full of snobbishness and not lack of understanding. But you already made up your mind about me because you assume I think everyone has the extra time to do things they like all the time.

[(Anonymous)]

PS: I never said you COULDN'T draw for fun, I said I can do for fun what you do for work, but you can't do for fun what I do for work. Reading - a skill you should improve.

[malik-chan.livejournal.com]

Perhaps you should have been more clear because you basically said we were jealous we didn't get to draw for fun. You pretty much implied art students don't get to draw for fun at all. And wtf is "you can't do for fun what I do for work." lol look at you acting as if you didn't imply anything, oh, and the term is reading comprehension.

[(Anonymous)]

Too many of them seem completely unaware that what they know is specialized knowledge and not everyone has it

Truth, but the sad part is they're unaware due to being constantly belittled for trying to make a living out of art rather than brain surgery.

"Oh you're studying art? Cool, my 5 year-old paints with her fingers in kindergarten too!"
"Hey I know a professional artist - he's an attention whoring dramatic crackhead who fakes disability to get benefits from the taxes WE pay because he can't occupy a damn job using his ~skills~!"

Unless you grew up among artists, musicians and other creative professionals, you've probably been showering in these comments everyday since the first time you picked up a pencil. You'd be brought up believing you're a horrible delinquent up to no good/only there to look pretty while everyone else is supposedly mature and wise beyond their years, majoring in a "real" subject so they can cure cancer and make "real" contributions to ~∽~∽~SOCIETY~∽~∽~ later on. Some of them think amateurs are wasting their efforts because they believe their own efforts and struggles are also in vain.