[ SECRET POST #1849 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1849 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

IA, though with one reservation: I do respect and understand girls who say they personally don't like the term bitch -- they might have had negative connotations with the word, a jackass boyfriend or other male figure who called them that to put them down and denigrate them for being female. That would definitely color the term for them and I'd respect their desire to not have to hear it. However, the idea of jumping all over someone for using the term "bitch" is something I hate, although I'm a woman. First of all, people have learned the term "bitch" and use it all the time in both sexist and non-sexist contexts, and if someone says it in a non-sexist way, they probably aren't being sexist themselves. They're just saying what pretty much everyone in the english-speaking world says. Now, that in and of itself isn't a reason, and some people say that we still should educate people not to use the word, but I disagree. I use the term "bitch" quite a lot. I LIKE using it. When I use it, I don't use it in a sexist context -- and since I'm a girl, shouldn't I be the one deciding what a sexist context is? I personally have no problem with people who do use it, pretty much because I use it all the time because of three reasons:

1) You can't call a woman a jerk, a jackass, an asshole, a douchebag, a dick, a prick, a dickhead, or anything else that means the same thing as "bitch" without sounding really stupid. Seriously. "Bitch" is the word that best conveys your meaning when you're faced with a mean-spirited, nasty human being who happens to be female.

2) Personally -- and this is personal, I'm not gonna try to convince any girl who doesn't feel the same -- I love the idea of stealing insults from the people who insult you, the way Americans did with "Yankee". And we kind of did do it. Now, it's no longer just something men say to women, women have totally taken it back and can use it in a gazillion different contexts, including non-negative ones.

3) Phonetically speaking, it's just a fucking awesome word. "Bitch". Just listen to it! An explosive "B" that punctuates a sentence perfectly, a "tch" at the end that conveys anything from shock to humor to disgust so well without the difficulty of a hard consonant, and with both sounds combined with a "i" in the middle, it has so much flexibility that you can adjust your tone and inflection and emphasis to use it as anywhere from a familiar term of endearment to a wonderfully precise, vicious stinger.

In any case, I think that as a girl, I ought to be able to use the word "bitch" if I want to. And I don't mind men using the word "bitch" (in a way that isn't explicitly sexist -- using terms like "I'm gonna fuck that bitch so hard" or "shut your mouth bitch" and stuff is despicable and really offensive to me. I also think using the word "bitch" against men considered weak is pretty offensive too). Other women may feel differently and I respect that, but I'm gonna resent you if you tell me I shouldn't be allowed to say whatever the fuck I want to people of my own gender.

[vethica.livejournal.com]

...you can't call a woman a jerk? Is jerk a male word and I did not know that?

[meadowphoenix]

You can't call a woman a jerk, a jackass, an asshole, a douchebag, a dick, a prick, a dickhead, or anything else that means the same thing as "bitch" without sounding really stupid. Seriously. "Bitch" is the word that best conveys your meaning when you're faced with a mean-spirited, nasty human being who happens to be female.

I disagree with this except in regards to "douchebag" and "dickhead." Asshole is pretty indicative of mean-spirited, nastiness in general.

[fenm.livejournal.com]

and since I'm a girl, shouldn't I be the one deciding what a sexist context is?

But if you use it against women, don't they also have the right to decide what a sexist context is? If they find your use if is sexist, doesn't that matter just as much as you not finding it sexist?

[fuchsiascreams.livejournal.com]

You're kind of opening up a door, there. If that's true, then men should be able to decide too, since they are always called bitches.

[fenm.livejournal.com]

Well, the anon I replied to just said she gets to decide if it's sexist because she's female, not because it's used against women more or anything. So... no...?
I dunno, you'd kind of have to take it up with the anon.

[(Anonymous)]

NO.

Don't be such a fucking idiot.

[fuchsiascreams.livejournal.com]

You don't see how saying "I get called a bitch so I get to decide whether or not it's racist" could give some men the excuse to say "well -I- get called a bitch too, and I DON'T want it to be sexist, so there!"?