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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-26 07:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #1850 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1850 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Hunger Games / Pokemon]


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[Small Wonder]


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[Code Geass]


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[Natsume Yuujinchou]


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[The Vampire Diaries]


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[Skins UK Gen 1]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Team Fortress 2]


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[jewnicorns]


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[Peter Pan (2003)]


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[Big Wolf on Campus]


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[Lord of the Rings]


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[Wire in the Blood]


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[The King and I]


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[matantei loki]


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[Community]


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[The Borgias / Assassin's Creed Brotherhood]


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[The Hobbit]


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Notes:

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Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Really? Maybe it's because I have been, and have met, Marys in real life, but I have little sympathy for the character. Looking back at myself when I was her when younger, it's not a matter of 'being misunderstood', it's a matter of being arrogant and prideful and thinking you do everything the best (even when you really don't).

Plus, part of Jane Austen's charm was that she was such a bitch irl. Seriously, reading some of her letters about real people make me alternate between laughing like crazy and wincing at the lack of sympathy she has.

As for Elizabeth- I personally enjoyed her, however I feel the same about Mary Jane from Sense and Sensibility as you feel about Elizabeth, so I think that a lot of the time Jane Austen does a good job making the characters not perfect- which means that depending on their faults, they will rub people the wrong way.

[identity profile] to-question.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Elizabeth was never my favorite heroine, I must admit. I always argue for Anne from Persuasion. Jane is rather good at creating heroes and heroines that you could either love or dislike depending on who you are.

As for Mary, I don't think we get enough of a focus on her in the novel to judge whether she was misunderstood, or arrogant and prideful. My sympathies lie in that fact that I felt that she was desperately trying to get someone's (anyone's) attention, something that her parents, sisters and the author all deemed her unworthy of receiving.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Ooooh, I love Anne! And I definitely agree with that. I have never felt 'meh' about one of her heroines. I either wish dearly that I could slap them, or feel like we could be BFFs if they existed in real life.

And yeah, I can see that. I did wish that she could have some growth in the book, but Austen seemed content to keep her the same for her whole life. Which is rather disappointing. My assumption about the being a misunderstood bookworm came from a discussion over at Smart Bitches, Trashy Books I read recently, so I was looking at it in that frame of mind. (Someone did a spin-off book with Mary as the star. I think it got a B or C grade...)

[identity profile] natural-blue-26.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
Anne ♥

[identity profile] intrigueing.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
This. I'm not a huge Jane Austen fan -- I think her books are great, but I don't fangirl over them or constantly re-read them or anything -- but I was always very, very impressed with how real her characters always felt. As though they were based on real-life people, rather than being symbolism-drenched representative narrative tools invented by the writer to convey a message. I've always preferred stories that give you the feeling -- whether it's true or not --that the author is drawing on his/her own experiences and modeling characters after people he/she personally knows.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed on the character front! It was something that impressed me when I was young, partly because living in the deep south (where I could point to each and every society type that appeared in her books and find a equivalent in real life) so much of it was identifiable as very real to me.
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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2012-01-27 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
You would probably also enjoy the diaries of Sei Shounagon if you enjoy charming bitchery. They are awesome. (She was a courtier in Heian Japan.)