[ SECRET POST #1851 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1851 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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18. [TRIGGER WARNING for gore/death]
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19. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

So, do you want to get all ~philosophical~ as to why my uncle raped me? And explain how I clearly simply haven't forgiven him because I don't understand it?

After all, it's ~easier~ for me to demonize him as a douchebag monster.

Educate me, oh wise man.

[(Anonymous)]

Please see my second paragraph here (http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/830593.html?thread=518824833#t518824833).

-- woodsman

[(Anonymous)]

Translation: "I don't have an argument that doesn't make me sound like a rape apologist douchebag."

[(Anonymous)]

Rape isn't fiction to me. I don't have that particular privilege, thank you very much. Until you acknowledge that it is a REAL HURTFUL THING, then you'll be arguing out your asshole.

I'm not trying to correctly describe your argument.

That's your job. You chose to defend the rape apologist, you get the burden of explaining why that's okay.

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

Awesome comment is awesome, and you should feel awesome for making it.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, then, should I angrily demand of you why you want to castrate without trial every single person accused of rape? That would be entirely fair of me to do, according to the standards you've chosen: if you get to demand that I defend an argument that is not mine and does not derive logically from anything I've said, surely I should get the same privilege to assign you a viewpoint you don't hold and coerce you to defend it.

-- woodsman

[(Anonymous)]

Translation: "WHY CAN'T I DEFEND RAPE ON THE INTERNET WITHOUT PEOPLE CALLING ME A MEANIEHEAD? I DON'T GET IT!"

[(Anonymous)]

Fuck it all, i have read this thread completely till now and can't believe what i'm reading here. Nobody here said real rape was ok, nobody! This is about a piece of fiction which is apparantly quite unrealistic, as rape is clearly not love. "Wolfie" wrote as an answer why she believes some people like it. Point. Everyone dogpiled her. Now you are accusing people of beeing ok with real rape over a piece of fiction and the understanding why some people like this FICTION! Call me rude all youz want, but you clearly need a lot of therapy if you can't difference between fiction and reality.

Yes, i know,i know, I'm an asshole and after this thread,i don't give a fuck , so stupid are some of you.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, you are an asshole who apparently reads about as well as you type if that's what you thought Wolfie's comment was. Which is to say rather shittily. lrn2english, please.

[(Anonymous)]

No, actually, AYRT is the one who understood wolfie's comment correctly. No matter how much you throw around the label "rape apology," no matter how many ALL CAPS you use or how many times you call people douchebags and shitbags, the fact remains that no one in this thread has been justifying rape in the real world. What wolfie was talking about was accepting rape in fiction.

It would be possible to put together a cogent argument about the relationship between what people see of rape in fiction and how it leads them to regard rape in the real world that leads to the conclusion "therefore we should not be accepting of rape in fiction" - but only one post so far has even come close to doing that. Most of the posts so far simply refuse to accept that there is any difference between rape in fiction and rape in the real world.

Sorry, folks, but throwing tantrums does not change reality for you. And it doesn't even change people's minds. This is why I (speaking as a child sexual abuse survivor) really detest the victim-deifying mentality still so prevalent in survivor culture: survivors are given tacit or sometimes explicit permission to behave in ways that would never be considered acceptable in any other civilized adult. They're encouraged to stoke their hatred towards their abusers, fan those flames higher and harder, encouraged to "let their anger out" primarily at their abusers but also at anyone who "compounds the abuse" by daring to even unwittingly do something the poor saintly survivor finds more difficult to deal with because of their past - in short, they are steered away from acting like mature, healthy adults who have overcome their past and towards behaving like dangerous psychos with no impulse control that it's not safe to be around.

Want what you say about sexual abuse to be listened to, and taken seriously? Here's a really good first step: look like a sane, mature adult who can discuss the subject reasonably. Respond to the argument the other person actually made, not a straw man argument that sorta sounds like what the other person said. Stooping to vituperative personal abuse? Bad idea.

And yes, I know very well that each time you do behave badly - viciously verbally assaulting someone for saying words of support for rape and abuse they never said, screaming at them for daring to question The Word of a Survivor - you get lots of applause for doing so. You know what that's called? Preaching to the choir. Outside the echo chamber that gives you all that approval for flying into fits of righteous rage, people look at the way you're behaving and they say to themselves "are all rape and sex-abuse survivors walking time bombs just waiting to lash out? can any of them discuss things without going psycho?"

What was done to you as a child was bad enough. Letting it keep you from joining the real world as a mature adult - now that is compounding the damage.

-- woodsman

[(Anonymous)]

Translation: "Let me inform you of how a good victim should act. I'm obviously an expert on the matter."

[(Anonymous)]

Ah yes, the tone argument. No load of mansplaining ego spunk can be properly blown without it.

Tissue?

[(Anonymous)]

I love the smell of mansplain-jizz in the morning. Especially when it's dried and caked and he's still jizzing on top of day-old jizz just to watch himself do it.

[(Anonymous)]

Congratulations on your brilliant insight. Want a fucking medal? Yeah, I can't believe what I'm reading here, either: a shitton of rape apology, so long as it's done "for true love."

No shit I fucking need therapy. I was fucking RAPED BY MY UNCLE AS A CHILD. And people are playing it off as ~romantic~ and ~I just don't understand it~ if I don't agree.

Go light yourself on fire and jump off a cliff, you fucking shitstain.

[(Anonymous)]

Fucking THANK YOU.

I really do hope you get the help you need. And I mean that sincerely. Because what happened to you was awful and you deserve to recover from it without assholes like these defending such vile actions.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you. Hopefully I'll be able to get some help, now that I've finally come to terms with the fact that it DID happen, and no amount of denial has helped.