[ SECRET POST #1870 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1870 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Um...nobody is criticizing how codependent the friendship is. Most complaints I've seen about the friendship is the lack of warmth, how horribly they treat each other (especially Sherlock's treatment of John), and how there doesn't really seem to be a friendship there at all. Just two guys who happen to live together and put up with each other.

[three-sixth.livejournal.com]

"Codependency (or codependence, co-narcissism or inverted narcissism) is unhealthy love and a tendency to behave in overly passive or excessively caretaking ways that negatively impact one's relationships and quality of life. It also often involves placing a lower priority on one's own needs, while being excessively preoccupied with the needs of others."

"Codependency may also be characterized by denial, low self-esteem, excessive compliance, or control patterns." - From Wiki

I'm not even sure if it fits codependency. Let's see: Excessive compliance (John not being angry at Sherlock for the experiment? But John complains about heads and things all the time. He also complains about when Sherlock does cruel things. I kinda approve of the tolerating the body parts; I mean Sherlock does need friends who accept him), Lower Priority on one's own needs (but then John does go out and get a job), and control patterns (Sherlock does go out and interrupt John's dates, but then John fails at his dates without Sherlock's interference).

I agree with you. My main problem is with how terribly Sherlock treats John sometimes.

Edit: Hmmm, it does seem their relationship has a bit of co-dependence to it.

[(Anonymous)]

Those complaints make me question every notion I've ever had about friendships. Everything about their relationship reads friendship to me, including the dark side.

It's like, the people who mostly see the friendly, cheerful side of me are my acquaintances. The people who know how horrible I can be are my friends. That is exactly what makes John and Sherlock's friendship so significant in my perception.

[elica.livejournal.com]

I love this comment.

[frostoria.livejournal.com]

This is what I've come to realize, and now I feel like I need to rethink my definition of friendship.

[(Anonymous)]

Most complaints I've seen about the friendship is the lack of warmth

I've seen this said before too but it always leaves me confused. Sherlock isn't exactly the type to show much warmth in the first place, so the bits he shows John are more than enough out of his norm to convince me of his caring for John.

I'm not even sure Sherlock is capable of showing much more warmth for a person than he does for John. Obviously people have different opinions and head-canons but if their friendship was too cutesy or touchy-feely it would be incredibly OOC to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Sherlock isn't exactly the type to show much warmth in the first place, so the bits he shows John are more than enough out of his norm to convince me of his caring for John.

(random passing anon here) Yeah, uh... to be honest, the fact that I let my girlfriend actually live in the same space as me and see me eat and so on... these things are evidence that she's really special to me. I don't think anyone but her recognizes that for me, since I'm pretty much an oblivious nerd who lives primarily in my own brain and has massive issues with personal interaction, these are actually signs of affection. I just don't think to show affection in the way most people do, and when I try, it feels ridiculous.

But she gets it, and she's the one who proposed. I'm still not sure why she's interested in me except that she does get me that well. I used to say we were like Sarek and Amanda, but this version of Holmes and Watson sometimes rings even truer.