[ SECRET POST #1870 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1870 ⌋


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Comments

[nomorefrostbite.livejournal.com]

I admit I am a huge Hunger Games fan, and i'm usually the very last person to go near anything YA. I grew up mainlining Shakespeare and Tolkien.

But from my own feelings on it, and those of other friends of mine who are into it, it really isn't about the BOOKS at all for some people. The books are horribly poorly written. Low quality, simplistic, repetitive. Really not very decent prose whatsoever.

But the WORLD the Hunger Games is set in is a huge draw - this dystopian future theme and the world around it. So many people I know love the world and LOVE the secondary characters (Haymitch, FINNICK, and Johanna), but aren't bothered at all about the main three or any of that.

It probably helped me get into it that when I first read it, i'd literally just been wheeled out of surgery and was on a cocktail of morphine and other drugs. If I hadn't been drugged up to my eyeballs, i'd probably have read the first few pages, been put off and disgusted by the shoddy attempt at 'writing' and not carried on.

[azelmaroark.livejournal.com]

+1 about the secondary characters. I love Katniss and Peeta, but I relate too much to them to write them. I'm obsessed with the Careers, though. I have so much headcanon on them that it's truly ridiculous. I usually get into fandoms when I feel like there's huge, potentially-awesome aspects that the creator(s) didn't really explore, and for me that's what's going on here. The books aren't the most beautifully written things ever, but they get the concept across, and I love the concept. (And Collins does have moments of brilliance no matter what her haters say; she does action scenes enviably well, and I loved some of her dialogue and even the PoV in places. Also, props for more-or-less carrying off a really difficult PoV through three books.)

I do a lot of "serious" reading as a science PhD candidate, and sometimes you just want a really, really "fast" book with an incredibly addicting world. I probably wouldn't read much fiction anymore if it weren't for books like THG (and my undergrad degree is in English!).

[nomorefrostbite.livejournal.com]

FLAWLESS ICON.

It's all the past victors I'm completely obsessed about. I just want everything to revolve around Finnick and Her Majesty Queen Johanna Mason CONSTANTLY.

I completely agree about the moments of brilliance, and action particularly is her strong suit, though there were little quiet moments that were touching.

I am totally with you on serious reading!! My undergrad was in political science so I had to constantly be reading terribly longwinded dry texts, my grad school was mostly about world war history, and then I branched off and re-trained in psychotherapy, and now I'm a professional clinical hypnotherapist, so I deal with depressed people all day and am surrounded by neurology textbooks and biological psychology books.

Sometimes I just want something quick, satisfying and easy so I can escape from thoughts of basal ganglia and the corpus callosum.

[azelmaroark.livejournal.com]

Oh, I love them, too, and at some point I'll get more into 'em, I'm sure. I need to figure out how I see D4's "Careers," though, because based on the canon that we have and some of the stuff in the movies, it's been veeeeery difficult for me to get a read on an interpretation that makes sense. (Totally willing to include "Collins is wrong" in that interpretation, but I just haven't got a clear vision yet.) I think that's preventing me from writing D4 characters because I know exactly how D2 works and a fair bit about D1. But at some point I will! And I totally wanted Johanna's story, too. One of my first thoughts when I was writing up my "I finished Mockingjay" LJ post was if there were gonna be future books, I wanted them to be about Johanna or other victors.

Yeah, I'm really sick of all this snobbish "LOL TEH WRITING IZ SO TERRIBLE, I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I'M AN ENGLISH MAJOR." 1.) Even if it is objectively terrible, that doesn't stop people from enjoying it, and we shouldn't have to apologize for doing so. 2.) Not everybody reads books for the writing style, and I say that as someone with a degree in literature. 3.) I disagree that it's objectively terrible because there are things that I know Collins does much better than me, and there is a reason why she is a published famous author and I am not.

Oh wow, I'm a neuroscience grad student! I hate it and want out ASAP, and when I get out I'm going to go teach little kids how to swim (lol, I know, but I'm so sick of the hypocrisy and corruption of academia). But I do still love science and the brain, and probably I always will. I'm sick of this attitude that you have to apologize for reading "easy" books or that it somehow makes you less of a reader/writer or a less intelligent person. I read the full unabridged Les Miserables when I was fourteen and understood it just fine, but in 2010 the only book I read was Fantastic Mr. Fox. And both of those things are okay. I can't stand it when people dismiss books because they're popular, easy reads and look down on people for enjoying them.

[lit-wolf.livejournal.com]

I'm a recent college graduate with an English major and I don't see this horrible writing everyone is talking about. Yeah, it's nothing special or new but it's not horrible by my standards. And I even went looking for it (read my comments with Vann a little higher up) and I still don't see it!

And I'm not even the kind of person who will keep reading a badly written story just because it's got a great plot or characters or something like that. I have stopped reading books because the writing drove me up a wall for one reason or another. I just don't see what people are talking about with Hunger Games.

[azelmaroark.livejournal.com]

Oh no, I totally agree. I feel like it might be that the style just doesn't groove with people, and they mistake that for objectively bad writing. I can understand that; it's a unique style and doesn't work for a lot of people. I happen to love the super-close PoV (it's almost always how I write), though I almost never do first person. I think to carry off first person present for three whole books that are about much bigger things than Katniss is pretty impressive.

It's not omg greatest writing in the woooooorld, but I don't see anything wrong with it, and I kind of think I'm reasonably qualified to identify objectively bad writing. I do wish it hadn't made the whole fandom think that they have to mimic the style, though. Not everybody can do it (which just adds to my theory that Collins is not an awful writer -- watch somebody fail at first person present and then tell me she's bad, gaiz!), and it doesn't work with every character.