[ SECRET POST #1872 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1872 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Hobo with a Shotgun]


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03.
[That Mitchell and Webb Look]


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04.
[The Secret Circle]


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05.
[How I Met Your Mother]


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06.
[Les Miserables]


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07.
[Code Geass]


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08.
[Star Trek]


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09.
[Pound Puppies]


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10.
[NCIS]


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11.
[Mass Effect 3]


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12.
[Glee]


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13.
[Brave New World]


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14.
[Star Trek DS9]


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15.
[Brazil]


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16.
[Rob Liefeld/Ioana Spangenberg]


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17.
[Suzumiya Haruhi]


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18.
[A:tLA]


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19.
[Video Games Awesome!, Skyward Sword Long Haul]


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20.
[Toy Story]


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21.
[Being Human]


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22.
[G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra]


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23.
[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]


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24.
[How I Met Your Mother]


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25.
[Hetalia]


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26. [SPOILERS for Mass Effect 3]



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27. [TRIGGER WARNING for sexual abuse]

[Revolutionary Girl Utena]


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28. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]
[SPOILERS for The Hunger Games]



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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for non-con and sex between minors]



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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[Sherlock]


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31. [TRIGGER WARNING for shotacon]
http://i.imgur.com/JJapK.png
[linked for (censored) porny stuff]









Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #267.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - hit/ship/spiration ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[closetospring.livejournal.com]

MORE LINKS

http://pussytooth.tumblr.com/post/17434454205/tw-sexual-abuse-victim-blaming

and I finally found this which is a more specific quote, but still not a direct link http://privilegedenyingasexuals.tumblr.com/post/10689765027/trigger-warning-for-rape

(that tumblr and http://aceslutshamers.tumblr.com/ are good for all the problems that pop up)

[(Anonymous)]

the privilegedenyingasexuals blog pisses me off. the person running it is basically asexualphobic.

[closetospring.livejournal.com]

ok

[(Anonymous)]

asexualphobic

LMFAO best joke I've heard all day.

[(Anonymous)]

Sadly not. There *are* people out there who tell asexuals that 'It's just a phase', 'you just need to find someone whose man/woman enough!' ect. And, yes, there have been accounts of rape happening because of it.

So it is a real thing. [NOTE: Not saying it's worse than what lesbians/gays go through - it's not. But it does happen.]

[(Anonymous)]

And that can all be attributed to gender and gender role rather than asexuality. So no, it's not asexualphobia. It's flat-out misogyny.

[(Anonymous)]

You'll find that gender and sexuality oppression are really closely linked. A lot of homophobia is rooted in misogyny and gender roles, but it's experienced as homophobia by gay people. It's the same sort of thing with anti-asexual sentiment. So yes, it is misogyny, but it is also "asexualphobia".

[(Anonymous)]

It's the same sort of thing with anti-asexual sentiment. So yes, it is misogyny, but it is also "asexualphobia".

Not when the exact same prejudice can be and is leveled at celibate non-asexual women, and produces the same experiences for them. It's misogyny, and nothing else.

[(Anonymous)]

You sure are trying hard not to get it.

[(Anonymous)]

If that's your argument, I think it's obvious who doesn't get it (hint: turn off your monitor and stare at the reflection for a bit).

[zombieroadtrip.livejournal.com]

Not when the exact same prejudice can be and is leveled at celibate non-asexual women, and produces the same experiences for them. It's misogyny, and nothing else.

Yes, this. Exactly. Not surprised you didn't get an actual answer here.

[(Anonymous)]

And you're an asshole.

[(Anonymous)]

And you're a special snowflake, so I guess we're even.

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

They've said some real assholish stuff on the blog, yeah, but two of the most recent posts are actually defending asexuals and pointing out that disliking the asexual community on tumblr and its awful rhetoric is not the same as hating all asexuals; in fact the posts were made to call out people who are assholes to asexuals (particularly off Tumblr) who haven't said or done anything wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

"Demisexuality" is a bullshit "orientation" that is nothing more than thinly-veiled slut-shaming. - second link

o___O The fuck.

[closetospring.livejournal.com]

well, considering the definition of "demisexuality" (at least as presented by demisexuals on tumblr) is basically "I only am sexually attracted to/have sex with people I like"......

[(Anonymous)]

That's not demisexuality.

Demisexuality is when a person experiences no sexual attraction, unless they have formed some deep profound bond with someone. It's not "I only am attracted to/have sex with people I like," demisexuality is "I suddenly experience sexual attraction toward someone when I have never before, and the trigger for this sexual attraction is the deep emotional bond with this person." Before the trigger, they were completely asexual, and for everyone else but the person they're attracted to, they are asexual. Demisexuality is a gray area for a reason.

[closetospring.livejournal.com]

see, that makes sense, and I think that's totally valid. but a looooot of time it's presented like this: http://i.imgur.com/qR0vZ.png (see how the purple is completely missing, period, from the left diagrams) and quotes like

"But what pisses me off is that in today’s culture, is that they try to give these hypersexualized characters some sort of identity even though they are just existing to create sexual arousal— they are just sex objects. And I am deeply offended about that.

I am a real person with a real identity, emotions, thoughts, dreams, goals and drive. I am complex. And for someone to try to say that these hypersexual characters have an identity just like me is deeply insulting. Hypersexual characters just exist for sexual purposes, and I will not be put on the same level as them— I have an identity, they do not."

I think it's a whooole 'nother thing.

ofc tumblr/tumblr communities (where the above examples were pulled from) are their own, sometimes vastly different, animal but the quote anon was talking about it also from tumblr.

[(Anonymous)]

The image you linked is a faulty defining of demisexuality, no doubt. Since it is faulty, unless you want to piss people off (especially demisexuals who relate to the definition you said is valid), don't hold it against demisexuality.

I think demisexuality can be easily mistaken as invalid because it can unintentionally insult non-asexual orientations, since if not explained well, it can seem condemning of sex in general or saying that non-asexuals are shallow because they don't need the emotional bond like a demisexual would. Like those quotes especially, that isn't a good thing to say about non-asexuals. It sounds like a gross misunderstanding of sexuality by the person who wrote it, tbh. But that just what one asshole said, and their words are separate from demisexuality.

basically, the person who made that image and whoever wrote those quotes are just one or two people with faulty definitions of demisexuality. Don't equate them to all demisexuals.

[closetospring.livejournal.com]

in my experience the two quotes are pretty representative of demisexuals on tumblr -- but you are right, that is not all of them. from my experience on other websites like lj, while much more limited, that seems to not be the case so much and I shouldn't fault everyone for it! I try to specify "tumblr [ace/whatever] communities" when talking about stuff like this but sometimes I fail to do so, and I especially should have done so this time since my comments are taking place on lj, and that's my bad.

eta: also, genuine thanks for being so polite about this!

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for being polite. :) I hate arguments, so discussions like these are so much better.

Out of curiosity, what areas on LJ have you encountered demisexuals? I'm not quite sure if I'm asexual or somewhere in the gray, so it'd be cool to hear about experiences demisexuals have from LJ. :)

[closetospring.livejournal.com]

I agree! :)

ahhh I'm sorry I can't give you specifically ace spectrum (I have no clue if that actually includes grays/demis, but I mean it to) friendly communities, but it's mostly just been in a few comments of posts in totally unrelated communities like sf_drama or here, and it's been mostly asexuals.

[(Anonymous)]

Aw, it's okay. ;)