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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-02-19 03:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #1874 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1874 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2012-02-19 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Why couldn't you relate?

(Anonymous) 2012-02-19 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I'm not a dude nor a lesbian?

(Anonymous) 2012-02-19 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, why does sex/gender would prevent you from relating?

(Anonymous) 2012-02-19 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not the person up there, but it just does? We're all different people we all have different reactions and desires. Let's face it, most fanfiction at this point is all about sex. I like a few canon homosexual couples as characters. I just have no desire to read about their sex.

I don't go around telling people to stop liking what they like and I'd prefer people respected me in the same manner. Acting like someone preferring het is ...well you're implying we're homophobic. I don't know about the other guy but I'm not. It just doesn't do it for me.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-20 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, sorry if it sounded as if I was implying you were homophobic, it wasn't my intention!
I just wondered what was so different between genders that could stop you from relating to them, as it's something I personaly don't understand.
Oh god, it just sound worse.

I can understand not going for these pairing if you're only there for the porn, I guess... it's the part about being unable to relate to them that annoys me.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-20 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know. It just does.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-19 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
DA
Because every heterosexual relationship is the same, and obviously easy to identify with?

I'm not saying you have to relate, or that you're a terrible person for liking what you like, but it's silly to generalise about the sexes involved somehow being the only thing barring your way to that. I may as well say I can't relate to people who aren't atheists, so I can't get into fic unless I'm self-inserting? More likely than not, especially in fandoms involving sci-fi/fantasy, characters are nothing like you anyways, and they're put into situations you'll never relate to.

"I can't relate to this," to me usually sounds more like, "Being gay or straight (or some other factor) sounds like it completely defines a person, they're so DIFFERENT, amirite?"

(Anonymous) 2012-02-19 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
(I'm the anon who wondered why she couln't relate)

That's exactly what I was trying to understand. I didn't want to assume anything, but... yeah.
I guess I just don't understand why some people can't just relate to other as people instead of as, say, straight-christian-caucasian-female, or something as specific.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-20 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
tbh, I really don't want to know the whys for what people ship. Just ship and let ship. But I hate when people go out of their way to justify what they like, because I'd rather not know their reasoning is all about otheringor some other thing that might bug me and tint my view of them. I get that enough irl, and it's already tiresome enough telling people I'm not some exotic person living the STRANGE GAY LIFESTYLE. That's not even touching the part where people also think other, odd, ridiculous things based on my race (or what they assume my race is).

Yes. I get why someone who isn't any of these things wouldn't know what it's like to be that, or grow up a certain way. But to tell me it's unrelatable, and impossible to view where do they even come from to say they can identify with an HR nightmare, hot-blooded space cop for being straight/queer, but not queer/straight. What about the part where they're a space cop.

ah now I'm just rambling :( I don't ship like most people apparently though. I don't self-insert, or have to relate to a character I like (otherwise irl I'd be surrounded by people exactly like me), and I'm never attracted to anyone in my ships. But I understand why a lot of fans like those aspects, as it's fun for them. That's just boring to me I guess :(

[identity profile] oflittlebrain.livejournal.com 2012-02-20 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
you do realize that a lot of fans of m/m are straight girls, right...?

(Anonymous) 2012-02-20 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
da

it's makes me laugh sometimes, because it can be really obvious to tell what an author's sexuality is by the characterization in their fic.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-20 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
da

or even lesbian girls!

(Anonymous) 2012-02-19 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
does it matter that anon couldn't relate? i mean, it's not their thing, they don't think it's their thing, and it's no big deal.

isn't that the point of this secret?

(Anonymous) 2012-02-20 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I suppose not, but I personally feel there's a world of difference between "getting off" on a ship and "relating" to it. There are plenty of things I "ship", but don't read porn about, because I enjoy the emotional interplay between the characters, and that has very little to do with gender.

Also, the logic of saying you "can't relate" to any m/m or f/f ships because you're neither a dude or a lesbian is a bit flawed, IMO. If you can't see the chemistry between two characters, so be it, but I ship a hell of a lot of SF stuff, and I'm not a giant tentacled alien from outer space.