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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-06 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #1890 ]

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(Anonymous) 2012-03-11 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Food makes me nauseous. Some of it triggers panic attacks. It's pretty much the same.

You are not putting anything in your body, you are living in a society where you do not get the make the rules. You live around other people and have to learn to deal with it when people do legal, moral stuff where they are allowed to.

You judging people for wearing perfume or smoking (again, legal and morally acceptable acts) makes you a horrid person.

[identity profile] aiffe.livejournal.com 2012-03-11 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Food doesn't enter your body. Food is solid. Smoke is a gas, it gets everywhere. Ever hear of secondhand smoke? That FUCKING HARMFUL THING?

I knew a woman who smoked all over her kids every day, even when they came down with respiratory ailments and started wheezing. It was legal. It was also child abuse.

When I have neighbors who smoke, it comes through the fucking walls and chokes me in my own home. I feel trapped, not safe in my own bed. It's hellish. They don't even know they're doing it. And I have no idea what they're eating, because FOOD IS A SOLID.

(Are you anorexic or something? Seriously? FOOD bothers you? Get therapy.)

Fine, I'm a fucking horrid person. Not like the people with their perfume on so heavy it made my mom unable to function for the whole day and endangered her job. Not like the people giving other people (including their own kids) fucking cancer. Me.

Enjoy your cognitive dissonance as you piss everyone around you off with your disgusting, immoral, but quite legal habit that's a risk to public health. I hope they pass a law banning it once and for all.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-11 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Second hand smoking is hurtful in close environments. It's not nearly as much of a risk in open spaces. That's why it's legal. Smoking over children? Completely different than smoking in an open space. And smoke coming trough your walls? I just blew smoke over my wall: it didn't come trough.

Smoking is not immoral. And it's just as disgusting as a lot of stuff people do all the time, like eating certain things. Or chewing gum with your mouth open. They would never pass a law against smoking in a public, open space because they would have to pass a law against eating or drinking. Do you see how it wouldn't work?

Wearing perfume? Not dangerous, not immoral, not illegal. Smelling good is a pleasing thing for most people. And yes, sometimes, the majority is important.

Food triggers panic attacks on me. It's a trigger. It's just as an important part of my life as my allergies. And yes, I do therapy. And yes, I do have an eating disorder. So go you, for being a jerk to someone who has a mental illness! Where's your "making the world a friendlier place" and all your SJ rhetoric? Or it only applies to things you approve of? You are an hypocrite.


[identity profile] aiffe.livejournal.com 2012-03-11 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I apologize for the food thing. I hope your therapy helps you.

I have trouble with people who have EDs sometimes. It's something I have to work on.

However, eating is healthy.

Cigarette smoke does measurable, physical harm, though. And it absolutely does come through walls. I'm lucky enough not to live in a place like that now, but there were times I could tell exactly when my neighbors lit up. It got so bad that I started smelling from it and people would ask me if I smoked. I couldn't shower it off. I couldn't keep it off my clothes. It was hell. And it was damaging my body, because that shit is TOXIC. Yes, it was secondhand smoke. It wasn't really much different than if they'd come into my bedroom and lit up. Shit was THAT STRONG.

Living here, the neighbors all seem to smoke outside, which would be great, except I'm on the ground floor and it just blows right in our windows. Again, it's just like they were smoking in my bedroom.

I don't mind people smoking in theory. If they could design a device that only got the smoke in the smoker's body, and not everywhere, I'd be cool with it. Or if the smoker was off in the wild yonder smoking where no one else could smell it, that'd be fine. I have a problem with other people selfishly damaging my health.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-11 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It's okay, apology accepted. You have to remember that eating (which can be healthy, but not always is) can be a huge thing for a lot of people and it's a very nasty mental condition to live with. Therapy does help, but I still have attacks with certain kinds of food.

And I am sorry that you have to experience something like that. I have... bad experiences with people who act like that towards smokers because they are usually really rude about it.

[identity profile] aiffe.livejournal.com 2012-03-11 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Some people have a problem with smoking because it damages the smoker. I don't. (I do have a problem with cigarette companies making them more addictive so that it's harder for people who want to quit to do so, though! But that's not the smoker's fault.) I really wish devices to stop secondhand smoke were made common and readily available.

I am actually pro-decriminalization of drugs, because I believe in choice. I don't think anyone owes it to anyone else to be healthy. And I think a lot of the drugs that are illegal are not immoral...I actually have a lot of problems with the law. As long as you're not driving or operating heavy machinery while high, I don't see the problem.

I endured various people smoking all over me in silence for years. (Seriously, smoking in a car with closed windows and kids in the back should be against ALL THE LAWS.) Realizing I could get angry about it was like a revelation. That actually, they'd been rude to me first, and there was no reason I should suffer for their pleasure, that that was grossly unfair. I wasn't consenting, but I was being included in their drug use. (I feel the same way about having to breathe in other people's pot, especially since that stays in your system a while and could cause me to fail a drug test.)

So, I get kind of ragey....but it's because it's years of built-up frustration. And also asthma. And I don't stop and read people the riot act, I just sort of hold my breath and glare as I hurry past them. Just going down the street is like navigating an obstacle course. Hold breath here, run to get ahead of the person there. (And if I fail, have fun wheezing and not being able to run, lol!) At bus stops, I have to position myself upwind of everyone (and then always someone lights up like ten feet upwind of me and they're not even waiting for the bus why are they standing there??)

tl;dr: have fun doing whatever you like to your body, just leave mine alone and we're good.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-11 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I get it, but such is life. Sometimes people do things we dislike or affects us but they are not doing anything wrong (nothing illegal or immoral) so it's not okay to be rude to them. Because if everyone is rude to everyone who does something they don't like but that is not illegal or immoral... then we end up killing each other.

[identity profile] aiffe.livejournal.com 2012-03-11 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Me glaring is not illegal or immoral, and is a lot less rude than spreading toxins all over.

I'm not doing anything illegal.

Sometimes people get glared at. Such is life.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-11 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
But glaring is unnecessary rude. I don't think it's correct to be rude to people who are not doing anything wrong.

[identity profile] aiffe.livejournal.com 2012-03-11 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Glaring isn't illegal. Why are you being rude to me for it?

(Anonymous) 2012-03-11 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not.