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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-11 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #1895 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1895 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 147 secrets from Secret Submission Post #271.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2012-03-12 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
This is a GENERAL community. It is in no way similar to tagging hate on tumblr. When you do that you are specifically putting it in the line of sight of fans of that character.

And if I saw someone saying that Catelyn was the worst, I'd probably say "LOL NOPE." And if they wanted to get more specific about why, I would engage them in a discussion. Catelyn gets enough hate everywhere. I'm used to it.

Also this secret wasn't just saying "I like this character/ship". It was saying that the secret maker fantasizes about Sansa losing her virginity to Sandor. I could just say nothing. But firstly, I find people's obsession with Sansa's virginity to be super creepy, and secondly, I think it's an incredibly problematic relationship. I could just say nothing to keep the peace. I concede that I could have voiced my distaste in a less over the top manner. But I didn't. And the fact that I didn't doesn't warrant you calling me a jerkass and saying I lack basic human decency. Like, REALLY. Come on. Stop making me out to be this terrible person when you were the one who turned it into a personal attack.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-12 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
It's a general community, but you were replying to a secret made by a fan of this ship. Who do you think will read these comments? Probably other people who are interested in that ship, no? So you are putting your comment in the line of sight of these fans.

I suppose it says a lot about this fandom that we're so used to character bashing that people don't think it's a problem anymore. I have seen lots of Catelyn hate, but I still wish people would stop doing it. I imagine fans of other characters, even characters I hate, feel the same.

Then say that. Say that you find people's obsession with Sansa's virginity creepy. Say that you think it's a problematic relationship and why. Or don't say anything if you don't feel like having an actual conversation about the pairing. But just saying "this pairing sucks" is a completely pointless comment. Yes, I overreacted by calling you a jerkass, but I am so very sick of this behavior in this fandom. And to be fair, I called you that when you reacted to my initial comment that ship bashing is not okay with a snarky "yeah I totally feel good about myself" rather than with an actual reply to what I said.

And I think we've both made our point clear and don't need to drag this out even further. I just really wish you'd stop being defensive and consider that maybe, next time you feel like writing a comment like that, you shouldn't. And I'll call people out on their behavior without calling them a jerkass next time.