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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-11 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #1895 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1895 ⌋


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[identity profile] visp.livejournal.com 2012-03-12 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
I never said "advocates." And I'm not "dodging" your questions, I'm just trying to point out that they are inherently flawed and then trying to give an answer that actually works, and then you sulk and ask an even more flawed question. Stop making up no-win broad statements in order to frame everything the way you want it and actually look at what I'm saying.

The "San/San" relationship has problems with pedophilia (even in the aged-up version she's still prepubescent) and Sandor certainly has problems with abusive behavior and misogyny. You cannot ignore or romanticize these issues without being in some way an apologist for them. That doesn't mean that a 15-year-old actress giving a shout-out to her fans is satan, or even one of your fandom shippers.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-12 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
No Sansan fan has denied that their relationship is fucked up. That doesn't mean they're "apologists" for pedophilia or misogyny (and Sandor's hardly a misogynist, he's more of a misanthrope if you have to label him as he pretty much hates everything in the world).

By your own logic, fauxkaren is an apologist for rapists by shipping Spike with Buffy.

You have been dodging questions by the virtue of trying to change the topic and not answering straight up whether or not you consider Sophie Turner to be an apologist for pedophilia and misogyny if she romantically shipped the two characters.
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[identity profile] visp.livejournal.com 2012-03-12 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Christ...

I'm not even sure if you're trolling or dense at this point. Whatever. If you're actually just dense, go up to the "Yes if..." and "No if..." and figure out which one of the sub-options comes closest to what you're trying to ask.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-12 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I saw that you trying to move away by going "Welllll...Sophie's 15 and she's just trying to appease the fans" as opposed to saying, "Yes, if Sophie Turner ships Sansan, then she is an apologist for pedophilia and misogyny" which is what you accused the OP of being for defending the Sansan ship.

If that's what you believe, then say "Sophie Turner is an apologist for pedophilia and misogyny if she ships Sandor and Sansa" and I'll drop the matter.



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[identity profile] visp.livejournal.com 2012-03-12 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Since you're apparently unable to understand words and I generally don't argue on Fandom!Secrets for longer than a day, I will simply repeat: Go to the "Yes if:" and "No if:" Really, there's a paragraph under each.

You can't just keep saying "If it's not red, is it purple or green," and accuse people of dodging when they try and explain that there's more than 3 colors out there.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-12 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw that post and you still didn't answer "If Sophie romantically ships Sansan, does that mean she's an apologist for misogony and pedophilia?"

Again, that's what you accused Sansan fans (and by extension Sophie as well) of being just for defending their ship. Own up to your opinions.

It's a simple "Yes/No" answer. Not a lot of wiggle-room.