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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-12 07:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #1896 ]

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[identity profile] fairyday.livejournal.com 2012-03-12 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god this. I've always thought that one of the best things about Twilight is how much potential most of the side-characters had, especially those two and Alice, imo. And then we're supposed to give a shit about the cardboard cut-outs that are Bella and Edward (though I agree with the idea that it could be interesting if treated like the creepy unhealthy relationship it actually is). It's absolutely hilarious to me.

I swear Stephanie Meyer is like, the queen of getting the exact opposite message across from what she intended. She's practically turned it into a fucking artform.The more the Twilight wants you to dislike a character, the more interesting they are, and vice-versa. I can't even remember if Edward had a personality or not beyond creepy, and chiselled jawline.
Edited 2012-03-12 23:49 (UTC)

[identity profile] leikomgwtfbbq.livejournal.com 2012-03-13 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I personally would've read the hell out of a story about Jasper, because it would be interesting to read about a guy who became a vampire after fighting in the Civil War, just to see how he adapted over time (and it's mentioned that he has issues with the "vegetarian" vampire shit, too--that would be interesting to explore). Or Rosalie, who went around taking revenge on her fiancee and his evil cohorts in a blood-stained wedding dress, but made a point out of not biting them. Sign me the fuck up for that story! Or how about a story focusing on how the Cullen clan forms over time and they find the true meaning of family and stuff? That could have been a very darkly sweet story to read.

But nope! Instead we got the utter trash that is Twilight and all its torturous ilk.

[identity profile] twilightedge.livejournal.com 2012-03-13 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Jasper and Alice are my faves and I would love to see more of their characters. But, as in the last book or second to last, Meyer did focus a bit on them and it made me cringe. I just hate that everyone started calling Jasper Jazzy or something like that, and yes my fangirl is showing, but after that they started acting a bit dumb, as I recall.

That and I don't know why Meyer phased those two out of the last book. Egh, it was really hard to read because my faves weren't there. I also agree that it would be awesome if Bella told Edward to stop being creepy and we saw more into the vampire culture and the werewolf culture too. Like, what's the difference between a shapeshifter and a werewolf? I assume there might be werewolfs in her universe; that and her vampires kind of act like fae, so that'd be an interesting take too.

So many good ideas, so much poor effort resulted.

[identity profile] leikomgwtfbbq.livejournal.com 2012-03-13 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
The really sad thing about Twilight is that potential peeks around the corner every once in awhile but no one ever bothered making anything of it. It could've been a story about a fucked-up romance, like some Natural Born Killers kind of thing. It could've been a fantastic horror story centering around Charlie's efforts to save Bella from the vampires. It could have been a series of short stories about each vampire's origins ending up with the formation of the Cullen clan.

It's frustrating that we got what we got in Twilight!

[identity profile] twilightedge.livejournal.com 2012-03-14 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
Preach haha.

Yeah, and when Charlie did find out about Jacob, his best friend's son, being a were and the existence of vampires and that Bella was now a vampire (or had a monster baby I can't recall) she just skimmed over it like he was supposed to be cool with it right away. I would have loved to see Charlie recruit Jacob unknowingly to stop the brainwashing the Cullens did to his daughter. It would have been sweet.

I like your idea too, though I'm afraid if she did touch on the secondary characters she might screw them up a lot. =( I didn't read her short story about Bree (Was that her name?) so that might've been good but...who knows. *siiigh*

[identity profile] leikomgwtfbbq.livejournal.com 2012-03-14 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I pitched the "horror story about Charlie" to some other community at some point. The best thing about that idea is that it would require only minor changes to the story. Shift the narration to Charlie and it's suddenly a horror story about a man losing his only child to the temptation of blood-sucking monsters. He wants her to be safe and successful and happy, but the more she hangs around the vampires, the worse she gets, becoming completely willing to throw away her entire future, her family, her friends, and even her life, just for the sake of some impossibly pretty blood-suckers she's known for, like, a month (but particularly the one with the worst relationship to her). Everyone else in their world encourages it and thinks it's fantastic, and thus no one else tries to prevent her quickly-worsening self-destructive tendencies or doomed relationship. He wants to help her when absolutely no one else in the world will. She started off with potential, but he's seeing his daughter fade away in front of him. He tries to fight against it, but fails in the end, because he doesn't know how to deal with this cult of pretty monsters--only humans and their relatively banal evils--and his only child merrily slips away into a cursed and hopeless future where she will never progress or grow.

[identity profile] kikkyo.livejournal.com 2012-03-13 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
I would have loved to see Twilight written in a way that took the creepy aspect into consideration, even if it had to be from a third-person point of view because Bella won't do anything but gush about how loving, romantic and dazzlingly hot Edward is. It would have added a lot of depth to the series.

I'm still trying to get through the first book and it ticked me off the other day when I got to the part where Bella gets separated off from her friends in town and then rescued by Edward from those street muggers, she had been looking for the bookstore the whole time and then wouldn't even go inside because it turned out to be a new-age bookstore run by some hippie/psychic type character.... who probably could have had a lot of information about vampires, given that this is a book about vampires and all... why, Meyer, WHY! ;_;
Edited 2012-03-13 02:11 (UTC)

[identity profile] amethyst-rei.livejournal.com 2012-03-13 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, yes. See, I actually like creepy relationships. Bella/Edward would have so been my cup of tea if the author, the characters, and more than half the fanbase didn't act as if there was absolutely nothing wrong with B&E's relationship. If everyone had just acknowledged how utterly creepy and destructive the pairing I was would have been far more receptive of the series as a whole.

Do you read Twific? Because there's one fic (though it's an AU) where the author really touches on this. The B/E in her fic is probably more disturbing than its canon counterpart, but just the fact that the characters in the fic realize how effed up the ship is (ESPECIALLY Bella and Edward) makes it far more interesting (fic is a total guilty pleasure, btw).

[identity profile] kikkyo.livejournal.com 2012-03-13 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't read a lot of it but I'd love a link to that one if you could.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-13 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
This is why way back when I first heard about Midnight Sun it interested me. I would've much rather read the stories from Edward's POV than Bella because you're right, she acts like a typical teenager and all she does is gush and fawn over him. I lived through that part of my life, I don't want to read it. But Edward was going through this whole inner turmoil of morals. His fear of being a monster and wanting to redeem his soul (not original in vampire fic, but I always find it interesting) for some hope of not being eternally damned for something he didn't have a choice in becoming. While reading Twilight I constantly wanted to know what was going on in HIS head, not stupid boy crazy Bella...
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[identity profile] spicandspan89.livejournal.com 2012-03-13 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
I have read Midnight Sun... let's just say Bella is certainly not the only one guilty of gushing and fawning. Good grief, the book would have been twice as long as Twilight had Meyer finished it!

I recall a lot of laughably bad lines too... not well enough to quote them, more's the pity.

(There was some interesting character stuff, but it needed a whooole lotta editing to make it work. And given *ahem* BD, I have serious doubts in Meyer's editor's critiquing skills.)

(Anonymous) 2012-03-13 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
I never did read what was leaked because I did realize that it wouldn't be what I wanted it to be. I liked the idea of it more than what she presented (so I heard). I've accepted that it had potential, but was in the wrong hands.
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[identity profile] spicandspan89.livejournal.com 2012-03-13 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
ITA - she comes up with interesting concepts, but is not so great at executing them.

[identity profile] myuki-chan.livejournal.com 2012-03-13 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
I feel you may find this person's fanfic series interesting: Twilight: But Better (http://elizabethtess.livejournal.com/tag/!!twilight:%20but%20better)

Unfortunately they haven't updated since December but I thoroughly enjoy their version of Twilight so far. Bella actually has a personality that I like.