[ SECRET POST #1898 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1898 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I would have walked away. Because I live in the real world.

I'm not going to judge a fictional character as a bitch (which is a word thrown around fandom as a catch-all for "girls I don't like") for talking a little smack to an obviously intoxicated guy who can't take a hint. She shouldn't have had to keep telling him no. Period. Frankly calling him a dumb hick who only had sex with farm animals (which I read as sarcasm and thought was hilarious) was pretty tame, I think. And he didn't seem terribly offended. (It honestly reminded me of Howard & Penny from TBBT.)

I hate this idea that a drunk dude who can't seem to grasp that his presence isn't wanted is somehow deserving of the respect of a girl who doesn't know him and doesn't want to know him. (Now, by the end of the movie, that's obviously changed - he's earned it by then.)

Frankly I'd love for the movie to have them as friends instead of in the antagonistic relationship they had in ST:XI, because I think their personalities are really similar and CP & ZD have fantastic chemistry.

[(Anonymous)]

I did not call her a bitch (I would not call her a bitch, I absolutely detest that word) what I did say was that she was rude, which is exactly my impression from that scene so I stand by my statement. And frankly, I would have equally been offended had it gone the other way, had it be Uhura drunk and hitting on Kirk with him standing there insulting her instead of walking away.

No means no, means no, I would never argue that, we're in full agreement there. But there is dismissing someone, i.e. walking away, and there is antagonizing someone. You see what I'm saying here? She did the latter.

Its not so much that he deserved her respect, because, frankly, he didn't. But he did deserve common courtesy. But I'm old school, I believe everyone deserves common courtesy, unless they cross a certain threshold of unacceptable behavior, which I don't feel he did. As I said, he wasn't touching her, wasn't insulting her, wasn't encroaching on her personal space, he was simply talking to her. Trying to engage her in conversation. That was the worst of his sins during that part of that scene (well that and using the cheesiest pick-up lines known to mankind, so I suppose we can fault him for that if we're going to fault him for anything).

As for his presence not being wanted, he was already sitting at the bar when she approached it. Its not like he approached her on the middle of the dance floor or at her table with her friends. This is another reason why the ball was in her court to walk away.

However, I very much agree with your last sentence. I, too, would like to see them as friends. And I also agree that these incarnations of them are very similar: they're are both very intelligent, both ambitious, and both have a softer side they don't easily show.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt. He wasn't groping her or saying explicit things to her even if he was a little persistent. There was no call for her to say that shitty line and be such a douchebag. She just should've walked away or just ignored his ass while waiting on the drinks. She's an asshole as proven by that exchange who needs to learn some social skills.

Yeah, I hate, Nu!Uhura, which pisses me off 'cause I love TOS Uhura.

[the-dala.livejournal.com]

Frankly calling him a dumb hick who only had sex with farm animals (which I read as sarcasm and thought was hilarious)

And so did Kirk, for that matter. I actually thought that she appreciated his reaction and was a bit softened by it. Honestly, if the cadets hadn't interrupted? I think the tide might have turned in Kirk's favor. He was being an asshole at first, sure, but he also revealed that he was pretty sharp as the conversation went on. She seemed as much amused as irritated by the time she was telling Cupcake it was "nothing I can't handle."