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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-17 03:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #1901 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1901 ⌋


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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
04. http://oi39.tinypic.com/33op0eo.jpg

[identity profile] quinnzel.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Did they really keep "It's Tasting Time!" in the dub? That's weird.

Anyhow, calm down. He's a cartoon character. If he gets on your nerves that much, you always have the option of watching something else.
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[identity profile] yoshi12370.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
No. At first it was "Time for the battle to be served" but then they changed it to "It's evaluating time!"

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
*OP*

"If you don't like it, watch something else!"

LOL. Sorry, but yeah, responses like this? It's a frankly lame to criticism. Why are you telling me to calm down, did I really come across as that aggressive?

I don't hate the show; I'm annoyed because this character has become (as someone else put it) the writer's pet; so much so that the other characters are being pushed into the background. Also I think it's perfectly valid to be annoyed that the character is basically everywhere in the fandom to the point where you get called a hater or bitched at if you dislike him. Cilan isn't the main character. The excessive amount of attention he draws in the show is irritating when (in personal opinion) I don't feel he's done anything to deserve it. Some of his antics are cute but as I said, these days it's getting really annoying. I wish they'd focus on bettering Ash as a character since they refuse to ditch him as the protagonist, but Ash is acting like an even bigger moron than he did back in the days of Kanto.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
*frankly lame response to criticism

[identity profile] quinnzel.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"did I really come across as that aggressive?"

Yeah, to me you did. And this is even worse and not worth my time. Enjoy your hatred.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure will then. Enjoy apparently leaving comments about something not worth your time!

[identity profile] unowncafe.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Please marry me.

I only watched one episode for a minute when i realized he was in it. I hate all those monkeys too ugliest pokemon in all of black and white.

My friend loves him though.
It makes me sad because i wish i could watch pokemon but i can't stand him.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Where would you like the wedding? :P

I really am happy though just to see I'm not the only person who finds him friggin' annoying. I don't like the monkey trio either.

SAME HERE. I have a friend who thinks he's adorable, and all I can do is roll my eyes and say nothing.

[identity profile] unowncafe.livejournal.com 2012-03-19 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
In Hoenn!
Wherever flannery is the leader of.

Hoenn is my favorite.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-17 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't stand Cilan because his eyes creep me the fuck out. I don't know what it is, but way they draw that character just looks off-putting. I can't watch him for too long because of this.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
The no-whites eyes are ugly as shit in my opinion. I can't even fathom why the designers couldn't just give him normal fucking eyes.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
This. Flesh!eyes are the worst. (See also: Mickey Mouse in that awkward period between his first design and his current one - if you can stand it). I remember when we freaked out those rare times Brock opened his eyes revealing cartoony black-dots on white... compared to Cilan, that's nothing. At least Brock's eyes looked anatomically possible.

[identity profile] nekusagi.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
IA anon.

I liked Cilan at the very start when he was just part of the cast, but now... it's just the Cilan show anymore. Ash and Iris have fallen into the background for whatever antics Cilan is up to. Which is a shame because Iris is a great character.
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[identity profile] yoshi12370.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
The fandom is worse IMO. It's totally oK for Dent to make asspull moves in battles but if Iris does it SHE'S A MARY-SUE

[identity profile] nekusagi.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you dare call them out on their misogyny though because why would it ever have anything to do with Iris being a girl?

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
*OP* I feel like they're trying too hard to turn Iris into Misty. That annoys me because Iris is nothing like that in the games, not from what I've seen of her. At least her development episodes like with Deino/Monozu were kind of cute. Cilan took over the SubMaster debut basically, and that shit pissed me off.
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[identity profile] yoshi12370.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
OK I'm really on the fence with Dent.

Pro:
He's a breath of fresh air compared to 14 years of post Original Series!Brock
He has a great personality that bounces off everyone
His goal is unique
Mamoru Miyano

Cons:
He's the writer's pet.
He never loses a battle at all in the show
Most of his wins are asspulls(Most of his Pokemon suddenly knows new moves)

And the fandom are clearly biased towards him.

But I can't hate Dent at all.

So....

[identity profile] rythen.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
"Mamoru Miyano"
Yeah.
Everytime I watch the show, I keep expecting him to start some kind of symmetry rant.

I do like him, I don't watch the anime much so I'm not aware of his battles, but he's nice and different from Brock. I loved Brock, but it was time to move on.

[identity profile] cloud-riven.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just going to second all of your comment. Love me some Cilan/Dent, but sometimes. Sometimes.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
"He never loses a battle at all in the show"/Most of his wins are asspulls(Most of his Pokemon suddenly know new moves)

Playing devil's advocate here, but that's not entirely true--just recently (ALSO SPOILER WARNING) he lost in a battle against Skyla and in that picture of him dressed as Elesa, he loses the contest that was the entire point of him even wearing that outfit. Something I've noticed lately is that yes, while he does win a lot, he almost rarely ever actually comes out right on top: any tournament he's in, he's usually eliminated by the second round or so. Any time he battles clearly superior trainers like the Subway Masters or fellow Gym Leaders (again, Skyla as an example), he loses. Most of the time whenever he's shown winning a battle, it's against people like Burgundy and Trip, who are beginner trainers in comparison to himself, which vaguely makes sense since he's a Gym Leader and has more experience than they do when it comes to battling other trainers. Or Team Rocket, and that's because...well, the plot says the good guys are supposed to win after all.

Also the Pokemon learning new moves is explained as them having learned them most of the time upon evolution, which it shows what moves the Pokemon now knows upon evolving right in the pokedex (hence why Dwebble suddenly knew Rock Wrecker immediately upon having evolved into Crustle) ...in fact, not just Cilan, but Ash is guilty of this too since his Tranquill evolved into Unfezant and suddenly knew Air Cutter in order to win against Skyla's Swanna when it was earlier able to take down his Pikachu... :|b
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[identity profile] yoshi12370.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 11:00 am (UTC)(link)
You do have a good point though IMO his win streak is a bit annoying(Like how he single handily beat both Bel and Araragi in a double battle when Ash was knocked out. It was a Bel focused episode and apparently she can't even win an important Pokemon bonding battle....(though I grew to really dislike Bel TBH but that's another rant for another time))

But the Pokemon suddenly knowing new moves part I have to stick to my thoughts because well...yes it's explained that Pokemon learning new moves are equal to leveling up, however several times Dent's Pokemon just have new moves out of the blue(Dweeble suddenly has Rock Slide/Pansage suddenly has Rock Tomb) and it wasn't like "oh he just learned them right now". They acted like they had that move for a long time....

Ash's Unfezant already knew Air Cutter since she was Pidove. Actually She suddenly knew Wing Attack, a move she can't naturally learn....