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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-17 03:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #1901 ]

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[identity profile] cloud-riven.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Personally I just don't think it's fair to go off at someone simply for wording something in an unfortunate way. I do think Freeman had the best intentions, but getting pissed because he's speaking from a privileged pov? The most I'm going to muster for that is a raised eyebrow, and hope they keep educating themselves. I don't think people should shy away from discussing race or quiltbag issues or whatever just because they might be judged for discussing something "off bounds", and I don't see the benefit of villainizing any potential ally (in person, online, wherever). I'm not saying all things are cool, like a straight person speaking on behalf of a queer person, but the more people we can welcome to discuss it, the less taboo and accepted it'll become. Well, I think so anyways.

And you know what? I have a love/hate thing going on with Moffat's work, and I'll be the first to jump around like a loon and go all, "LOOK AT HIS PLOT HOLES. WTF IS RIVER/IRENE???", but there's a difference between being a problematic person and having problematic storytelling. He might not be the most well-read guy on Feminism 101, but he writes what he likes, and that's fine imo. Moffat can put his foot in his mouth ("I'm not sexist. YOU'RE sexist" lol), but he's not making a specific effort to demean folk. Hell, that he's okay with being upfront about what he thinks is refreshing. I wouldn't mind buying him a beer 8|

[identity profile] justspaz.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
Eyebrow raising is the best in these situations, definitely (although I've never practically mastered it, so it is an internal raise for me). And no, definitely not. I want allies, I want people who want to fight and make changes even if it doesn't directly benefit them, but because it is common decency. There isn't enough of that in the world. There are limits, definitely, but still, go forth and help, as long as they leave certain things to actual LGBTQ/POC/etc.

I actually love Moffat's stuff, a lot (even series 6...all of it!), so yeah, I wish he wasn't so off color on some things, but I respect his work still.