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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-23 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #1907 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1907 ⌋

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[identity profile] mika-kun.livejournal.com 2012-03-24 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
Were you the anon that said: "Stating that phallic penetration is a definition of sex (not the only one), and having sex is the criterion for a loss of virginity"? Because I've been operating under the assumption that you are for a few hours now.

You have expressed time and time again that you, mika_kun, hold the definition that sex = consensual sexual intercourse.
I'm pretty sure that I've always said "for many people" whenever I talk about that. Which doesn't mean that it's my opinion, just that it's one I've heard many other people express.

In a court case, the forensics people can only say that sexual intercourse occurred, not whether it was consensual or not. Still don't actually need the word sex. If they're talking about fluid exchange they're going to be mentioning which fluids were transferred and where they were transferred to. In this case the act itself would probably need to be explicitly mentioned anyway, so calling it vaginal intercourse or anal intercourse ect. would be possible.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-24 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that was me.

You defining sex as always consensual:
I think we should be moving towards a definition that includes consent because I think this will help avoid apologist language.

And further referencing it: e are clearly using different definitions of the word sex

till don't actually need the word sex. If they're talking about fluid exchange they're going to be mentioning which fluids were transferred and where they were transferred to. In this case the act itself would probably need to be explicitly mentioned anyway, so calling it vaginal intercourse or anal intercourse ect. would be possible.

Fluid exchange happened, but that not a full conclusion. For example: what if the penis owner pulled out, what if fluid was later placed in the vagina, etc.?

Intercourse to me is more consensual sounding than sex, because it has connotations of a conversation or a back and forth between two people (ooo! another unexpected, but enjoyable pun!) whereas sex refers to genitalia, reinforcing the idea of the physical component.