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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-30 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1914 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-03-30 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
TB

I agree with a lot of this, but the crew did have a lot of issues with her. Some of them tried to go out of their way to help her because they felt bad for her, but Mal, Zoe, Jayne, and even Wash weren't entirely positive-towards her. That was what Objects in Space was all about.

One of the big things about a Sue is that she's supposed to have flaws but everyone acts like she doesn't. In Firefly, she's super-human in some ways but no one sees it that way. They see her as a danger, a weapon in some ways. She's psychic but they think she's crazy. She's intelligent but they find her annoying. No one treats her like a goddess. She might be more skilled but the one who is unanimously loved (even by Jayne in his own way) is actually Kaylee. So I don't see her as a Sue, really. I see her as a strange, misplaced character. I think Whedon wanted to do a lot more with her but didn't have the chance and it's a shame.

But you do have a lot of good points. I'd read your essay if you wrote it up.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. River does definitely have some Sue qualities, but I don't think everyone loving her is one of them. Otherwise they wouldn't always be fighting about what to do with her.

It's interesting you mention Kaylee. Everyone does love Kaylee, and I wonder if that's one of the reasons I've never really cared for her all that much. :( I don't hate her, but of all the Firefly characters, she's the one I care least about.
ext_19953: (it's just an object. (in SPAAAAACE))

[identity profile] mutantjules.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
exaaaaaactly, oh man

(.......this icon makes it look like she's my favourite and I'm just being defensive. She's not even! I just made a batch of really simple FF icons because I have no skillz and I like how this one turned out best!)