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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-30 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1914 ]


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[identity profile] ninety6tears.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
This is so embarrassing to admit, but a part of me was expecting the story to cop out of its own premise somehow and, you know, not actually show children killing each other because somehow they refuse to or something. It is obviously better that it doesn't, but honestly I'm sort of uncomfortable with people who aren't saddened by this movie in any way, like to the point that it was a little upsetting that a couple people I saw it with came out really nonplussed. Unless they actually just found it so terribly made that they couldn't get the least bit invested.

[identity profile] nomorefrostbite.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I came out not having really felt the deaths much at all, and I was expecting to feel HORRIFIC about it all (in an OMG THIS IS SO TERRIBLY WRONG UGH UGH effect sort of way) like I did with the books. But then it was all so bloodless and desensitised, and I understand why it was, but it hardly felt like there was even any danger in the arena most of the time, and all the tragic deaths and the waste of young life just wasn't really affecting when Cato would swing his sword to cut some poor child down, and his sword was as clean as a whistle without a single smudge or drop of blood, and the tribute was lying on the ground looking still quite coiffed and bloodless too.

Rather than being like ".......... omg that just happened :|" as I completely thought i'd be, I was "oh, so that just happened". Ugh. DISAPPOINTED. Because I WANTED it to be shocking, I wanted it to feel like real jeopardy, like it really is as brutal as it's meant to be from the books, that these disturbing things happen every year for the Capitol's fun. I wanted audiences to feel that visceral shock that THIS. IS. HAPPENING. and recognise the true nature of that fact.

Of course i'm British, and the BBFC did edit out 7 seconds of blood, so no doubt it was perhaps more bloody in the US release.

But no wonder so so many people have reported audience members in their screenings actually cheering when careers died. No wonder people cheered and applauded when Cato - a teenager indoctrinated and trained up to kill since a boy - was being eaten alive by muttations. Ugh. So wrong.

So rant over, I completely get why you were upset that people came out nonplussed. Imho it played it so safe to get a younger audience in and rake in more money that the true horror of the Games was lost on the majority.
Edited 2012-03-31 01:07 (UTC)

[identity profile] pourtant.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, this exactly. In the movie the concept of the Games is still horrible but the movie doesn't really show just how fucking hard and scary and traumatising they are. Like you said they played it safe and I completely understand why but I just wish it wasn't so.

[identity profile] azelmaroark.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
This, I know some people who thought it was "fun" and other innocuous adjectives, and I was really shocked. Think what you want about the quality of the film, but I feel like there's something wrong when you're so cavalier about watching twenty-two child-on-child murders. I really love this story and these characters and I badly want to see it again, but I haven't yet. I can't bring myself to. To me that's the difference between the film/story's quality and the effect of the subject matter. Maybe you'll love the story and maybe you won't, but I feel like the basic emotional reaction to the premise should be universal.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
I find it a beautiful irony that so many people flocked to see what Collins was trying to protest. They wanted to see gladiator fighting and many enjoyed the film because of that or were disappointed at not getting in on the gore. It's like the audience has become the Capitol citizens. We're this big, decadent group who gets to watch something on film and we know it's just acting but we love the violence and we want the gore and we're so fascinated by this idea that someone would make these kids do that to each other. We feel Rue's death yet we continue watching as more and more kids kill each other.

[identity profile] inversecalico.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
This was my main thought as well. Thank you for figuring out how to say it better than I could.