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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-30 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1914 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1914 ⌋

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
10. http://i.imgur.com/byEtO.jpg

[identity profile] wrestlingdog.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That's kind of the point.

[identity profile] writerserenyty.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep; it's supposed to be disgusting/awful, especially Rue. That's what causes the events (not going further in describing because of spoilers) of the sequels, or at least sets the stage for them. That it's such a horrible thing.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
EXACTLY. If you liked it - you're missing the point :/

I'm glad OP was sad over Rue's death. (unlike those horrible twitter "fans")

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[identity profile] formula-410.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
This. I did feel a bit nauseated at some points while watching the movie. Doubt I would have actually thrown up, but it's meant to be unsettling--even disturbing.

[identity profile] azelmaroark.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's okay, anon. I'm deeply into book-canon and I couldn't sleep for three days. I think that's the reaction you were supposed to have. Feeling the need to reach an endpoint for the characters, even if it's a horrible endpoint, was one of the reasons why I read the books so fast. I think this is an interesting point on how age of the viewer effects how you perceive the concept because I was crying for the sixteen-year-old 'babies,' too.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-30 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't see the others; it'll only get worse.

[identity profile] spiletta42.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm relieved to know that at least someone got it. It's supposed to be awful, and a disturbing number of reviews glossed right over the murders of 22 innocent children by government sponsored reality tv and focused on pretty much everything else. It's troubling just how desensitized we've become as a society.

[identity profile] ninety6tears.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Lots of people are talking about how it's such a parody of reality TV, and like...I don't know what the author would say but I feel like that's kind of a shallow reading of it and it seems a little fucked up to call it a "parody," even when there's a bit of dark humor in the film.

[identity profile] saya22.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
Those people need to know how to differentiate between parody and satire.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
It IS a parody of reality TV. It's saying how fake everything is and how stupid the challenges are:

"Collins says the idea for the brutal nation of Panem came one evening when she was channel-surfing between a reality show competition and war coverage. “I was tired, and the lines began to blur in this very unsettling way.” "

Unless you're objecting to the use of the word parody?

(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Haven't even seen the movie yet and I feel you so much, OP. I felt so bad for Rue in the book that I almost cried right at the Hastings where I was reading it. She was so adorable and she tried so hard and she was so young and ;dgjadg;agj;agja Nobody deserved to be there, but even though I knew it wouldn't happen, I wanted her to get out of there more than any of them.

And they just had to cast the cutest, most innocent-looking little girl to play her, didn't they. My girlfriend and I are going to see it when the crowds die down, and... I just know I'm going to be a blubbering wreck of an embarrassment during the scene where she dies.

[identity profile] ninety6tears.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
This is so embarrassing to admit, but a part of me was expecting the story to cop out of its own premise somehow and, you know, not actually show children killing each other because somehow they refuse to or something. It is obviously better that it doesn't, but honestly I'm sort of uncomfortable with people who aren't saddened by this movie in any way, like to the point that it was a little upsetting that a couple people I saw it with came out really nonplussed. Unless they actually just found it so terribly made that they couldn't get the least bit invested.

[identity profile] nomorefrostbite.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I came out not having really felt the deaths much at all, and I was expecting to feel HORRIFIC about it all (in an OMG THIS IS SO TERRIBLY WRONG UGH UGH effect sort of way) like I did with the books. But then it was all so bloodless and desensitised, and I understand why it was, but it hardly felt like there was even any danger in the arena most of the time, and all the tragic deaths and the waste of young life just wasn't really affecting when Cato would swing his sword to cut some poor child down, and his sword was as clean as a whistle without a single smudge or drop of blood, and the tribute was lying on the ground looking still quite coiffed and bloodless too.

Rather than being like ".......... omg that just happened :|" as I completely thought i'd be, I was "oh, so that just happened". Ugh. DISAPPOINTED. Because I WANTED it to be shocking, I wanted it to feel like real jeopardy, like it really is as brutal as it's meant to be from the books, that these disturbing things happen every year for the Capitol's fun. I wanted audiences to feel that visceral shock that THIS. IS. HAPPENING. and recognise the true nature of that fact.

Of course i'm British, and the BBFC did edit out 7 seconds of blood, so no doubt it was perhaps more bloody in the US release.

But no wonder so so many people have reported audience members in their screenings actually cheering when careers died. No wonder people cheered and applauded when Cato - a teenager indoctrinated and trained up to kill since a boy - was being eaten alive by muttations. Ugh. So wrong.

So rant over, I completely get why you were upset that people came out nonplussed. Imho it played it so safe to get a younger audience in and rake in more money that the true horror of the Games was lost on the majority.
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[identity profile] pourtant.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, this exactly. In the movie the concept of the Games is still horrible but the movie doesn't really show just how fucking hard and scary and traumatising they are. Like you said they played it safe and I completely understand why but I just wish it wasn't so.

[identity profile] azelmaroark.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
This, I know some people who thought it was "fun" and other innocuous adjectives, and I was really shocked. Think what you want about the quality of the film, but I feel like there's something wrong when you're so cavalier about watching twenty-two child-on-child murders. I really love this story and these characters and I badly want to see it again, but I haven't yet. I can't bring myself to. To me that's the difference between the film/story's quality and the effect of the subject matter. Maybe you'll love the story and maybe you won't, but I feel like the basic emotional reaction to the premise should be universal.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
I find it a beautiful irony that so many people flocked to see what Collins was trying to protest. They wanted to see gladiator fighting and many enjoyed the film because of that or were disappointed at not getting in on the gore. It's like the audience has become the Capitol citizens. We're this big, decadent group who gets to watch something on film and we know it's just acting but we love the violence and we want the gore and we're so fascinated by this idea that someone would make these kids do that to each other. We feel Rue's death yet we continue watching as more and more kids kill each other.
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[identity profile] visp.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
There's a reason children usually have plot immortality in movies. No one* wants to see a kid die.

* - Well, mostly no one.

[identity profile] streetcake.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
What I liked about The Hunger Games is that it was about how awful it is to see kids slaughter each other for entertainment rather than the slaughtering being for the reader's/viewer's entertainment. Especially when the in-universe audience is so detached from reality that they don't realize how awful they are for enjoying it.

But yeah, I'm getting more sensitive to violence and the movie really got to me. Not just Rue or curly haired kid, but some of the random kids they showed dying looked only thirteen or fourteen-years-old. Like the girl who got caught with the camp fire or even Clove looked a bit young(maybe fifteen?)

[identity profile] streetcake.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Also, I agree that the violence was tastefully done. The one credit I'll give to the whole shaky camera thing is that it let you see the violence without the gory details. I think if the violence had been too gory it would have taken away from it in some ways.

[identity profile] zippytheavenger.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
You and my mum, OP. She went with me the second time I saw it and every time Rue/Curly Hair/any of the littler kids appeared on screen she'd gasp or groan, for the whole build-up before the Games even started. When Rue was actually killed, she lost her shit and cried into my jacket.
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[identity profile] mutantjules.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
nah, man. It's SUPPOSED to disgust you. (and I fucking wept for Rue in the theatre. I didn't while reading the books at ANY point, but I so cried in the movie.)

[identity profile] bamboo.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Mission Accomplished for the movie. It was more graphic in the books. The shaky camera was distracting and making it blurry, and the muttations were kind of only glossed upon in the movie.

[identity profile] fallintosummer.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The shaky camera was distracting and making it blurry

Did you see the movie in IMAX? I did and I hated the shaky camera. I heard that the movie wasn't designed for that format. I'll have to see the movie again in the "normal" setting.

[identity profile] serria.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Curly hair boy did me in. Of course Rue made me bawl, but at least she had Katniss to take care of her. Curly hair boy... :( I mean, it's supposed to be terrible, but omg, whyyyyyyy!