[ SECRET POST #1915 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1915 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 166 secrets from Secret Submission Post #274.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 1 - text secret ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

NS, NF, etc

[(Anonymous)]

Shipspiration

Me too. Not sure why you need to make that a secret, but kudos.

[fenrischained.livejournal.com]

What I want to know is why people keep using that manip to say it with. I've seen it like ten times now, and I'm always like OH MY GOD IT'S GANGS OF... nope, 'nother S/H shipper.

More people should make Gangs secrets. :|

[van.livejournal.com]

I'm just amazed by what a bad manip it IS. Hermione's neck is like two feet long (maybe that's a weird flaw of the original picture), and her face is an entirely different color/resolution/quality than the rest of the head.

I mean, it's not as bad as some truly bad manips, but I don't think it gets to qualify as a good one, either... Oh well. Don't see why this is a secret, either, since it's such a very popular pairing.

[fenrischained.livejournal.com]

I don't think it's a flaw of the original. I think, looking at the screencap, the problem is that in the original (http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lerg8hoOFG1qdj6pxo1_500.jpg), Jenny's head is tilted down a bit more and turned away from the camera, so her neck's at full extension, while in that manip, Hermione's face is turned towards the camera, so her chin is higher, and her neck should be shorter and creased a little because, when your head's in that position, your neck shouldn't be stretched. Also, for the same reason, her ear's in the wrong place and at the wrong angle, and it would really help if there had been a bit more of a yellow filter put on her face because it is so obviously a different colour to her neck and ear. And if the saturation in that had been brought down, or in the surroundings had been brought up, because her eyebrows and eyes stand out unnaturally.

I also think Snape's head is too big, although I could be wrong. It would make sense for it to be, because Alan Rickman's face is such a different shape to Daniel Day-Lewis', but I may be seeing things on account of her chin being in the wrong place.

So, yeah, not a great manip, but I have to admit what came to me first in all of that was a great desire to see Snape with Bill's moustache. That moustache is a thing of beauty.

[fenrischained.livejournal.com]

and also I am still baffled as to why you'd pick that screencap to manip. Or even that film. Is it because Snape and Bill are both bastards and have known Hermione/Jenny since the latter was a child? If you were going to make a romantic manip, why would you make it from a cap of two people who no longer have sex because the guy is a dick? And, if it isn't because of the content of the film, why pick one with nineteenth-century and totally un-Hermione fashions when I'm pretty sure you could find that same pose in a million other places?

[(Anonymous)]

Shipsiration - YUCK HOW EMBARRASSING!

Srsly, isn't that, like, the most popular het Snape ship out there...? I mean, I guess why it's a secret, given how hella creepy it is while she is still at school, but secret-worthy?

[(Anonymous)]

NS 4

Rue was described as black in the book, and Katniss as having olive skin - only her sister Prim was white.
It's not that people are bothered by the fact that Katniss might be white. What upsets people however, is the fact that another white girl is the main character in a popular, mainstream movie. Whitewashing is a huge problem, and people thought that for once the movie was going to stick to the book's descriptions, like they did with every other character. So while everyone else was cast accordingly, the main character still ended up white. Nobody has a problem with Jennifer Lawrence, everyone loves her, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't be bothered by the fact that once again whitewashing is used to appeal to a wider audience. (See also Dragonball Evolution and The Last Airbender for recent whitewashing.)

Do you really not see a problem there and why people might take issue with it? Smh.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not just that they cast Katniss as white- it's that they didn't even audition any non-white actresses. Even under the OP's 'yay raceblindness' framework, that's pretty damning.

[(Anonymous)]

Excluding non-white actresses from the casting call was inexcusable and gross, but olive-skinned does not mean non-white. I wish people would get that through their heads. Would it have been better somehow if an actress of Mediterranean descent with olive skin had been cast?

[(Anonymous)]

I guess I don't know what "olive skin" is, because I've always thought that was in the realm of 'white'. I kind of think of Mediterranean skin tones. And I don't think anybody is really upset because they didn't cast someone with Spanish ancestry- the people I've seen upset seem to think Katniss should have looked more like Rue than Prim.

If her sister is white, and they both had the same parents, I don't see how Katniss being white ruins the movie.

[(Anonymous)]

My god, this fandom has no fucking clue what "olive" skin is. Olive doesn't equal "not white". Olive is a skin tone which is completely unrelated to the lightness/darkness of skin. You can be pale as a ginger and have olive skin. Yes, you can also be dark with olive skin... but Katniss's mother and sister were blonde with blue eyes. For the sake of keeping things simple, having Katniss be white was logical. If she were darker, they'd have to explain that she was not adopted and that Prim was just an unlikely product of a white woman and a darker man. Audiences would probably still be confused, or think it was some plot twist-to-be.

I do have a problem with them only accepting white actresses for the auditions, but this was not a case of white-washing, because Olive CAN mean white (and most often does).

[(Anonymous)]

Most people are perfectly aware of what "olive" skin is. But there are other factors that indicate a darker skin.

http://xalexiel.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-katniss-everdeen-is-woman-of-color.html

Everyone can judge for themselves, but is it really not whitewashing when only white people were auditioned for the role of Katniss? Yes, it's logical that Katniss was white in the movie for the sake of "keeping things simple", but I don't see why no-one would be able to work around that. If a darker skinned Katniss is possible in the book, I don't see how it can't translate into the movie as well. If audiences are left confused, then perhaps the movie isn't doing its intended purpose.
IMO, it's not a problem that Katniss is white in the movie, but canceling other options during the casting does raise more than a few questions.

[(Anonymous)]

This, pretty much.

[(Anonymous)]

I love watching the labels in the failbar to see what people think is a valid way of submitting secrets. Text secret made me lol, for that is one I have never seen before. XD

[(Anonymous)]

NS 3 - is that Sarah from Chuck? I agree, her "ugly" version was hilarious.

[100101011.livejournal.com]

NS2
pretty much. a lot of people like to overlook that snape is a total and utter prick, though. something about him being all woobie at the end.

[(Anonymous)]

NS2

I always think it's sad when Snape fangirls believe they'd get along really well with Snape, or that they'd do well in his class. He'd probably hate them and treat them like shit.

It's even worse when they say they love him because he, like them, was bullied. But he gave 10x as worse than he ever got, so... fuck that.

[intrigueing.livejournal.com]

NS1: OH MY GOD IT'S MID-NINETIES CLASSIC WANK!!!!!! *sniff* And it's still so, so timeless. So simple, yet so confusing. So many things to consider, yet so few relevant actions by the characters. Such a long list of canonical ambiguities to sift through, compressed into such a short list of canonical events. So, so, so many different angles and arguments and considerations to be untangled. Just enough information missing to make the situation murky, but enough information to stop the characters' thoughts from being a mystery. It's like the wank from heaven, tailor-made for endless, unsolvable, circular, unquenchable arguments. Such a classic.

My opinion: Ross was the one in the wrong, but the thing he was wrong about wasn't cheating. Let the flames begin.

[(Anonymous)]

Welp, no flames were started, but I'm curious about what you think he was wrong about.

[(Anonymous)]

Shipspiration

Why, why use a manip?! It creeps me the hell out and and takes me right out of the ship. I don't even like drawings of them. I ship the characters not the actors.

[(Anonymous)]

^this

[(Anonymous)]

Ship!: That manip always makes me think she has a giraffe neck. : /