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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-31 03:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #1915 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
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Rue was described as black in the book, and Katniss as having olive skin - only her sister Prim was white.
It's not that people are bothered by the fact that Katniss might be white. What upsets people however, is the fact that another white girl is the main character in a popular, mainstream movie. Whitewashing is a huge problem, and people thought that for once the movie was going to stick to the book's descriptions, like they did with every other character. So while everyone else was cast accordingly, the main character still ended up white. Nobody has a problem with Jennifer Lawrence, everyone loves her, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't be bothered by the fact that once again whitewashing is used to appeal to a wider audience. (See also Dragonball Evolution and The Last Airbender for recent whitewashing.)

Do you really not see a problem there and why people might take issue with it? Smh.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not just that they cast Katniss as white- it's that they didn't even audition any non-white actresses. Even under the OP's 'yay raceblindness' framework, that's pretty damning.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Excluding non-white actresses from the casting call was inexcusable and gross, but olive-skinned does not mean non-white. I wish people would get that through their heads. Would it have been better somehow if an actress of Mediterranean descent with olive skin had been cast?

(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I don't know what "olive skin" is, because I've always thought that was in the realm of 'white'. I kind of think of Mediterranean skin tones. And I don't think anybody is really upset because they didn't cast someone with Spanish ancestry- the people I've seen upset seem to think Katniss should have looked more like Rue than Prim.

If her sister is white, and they both had the same parents, I don't see how Katniss being white ruins the movie.

(Anonymous) 2012-04-01 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
My god, this fandom has no fucking clue what "olive" skin is. Olive doesn't equal "not white". Olive is a skin tone which is completely unrelated to the lightness/darkness of skin. You can be pale as a ginger and have olive skin. Yes, you can also be dark with olive skin... but Katniss's mother and sister were blonde with blue eyes. For the sake of keeping things simple, having Katniss be white was logical. If she were darker, they'd have to explain that she was not adopted and that Prim was just an unlikely product of a white woman and a darker man. Audiences would probably still be confused, or think it was some plot twist-to-be.

I do have a problem with them only accepting white actresses for the auditions, but this was not a case of white-washing, because Olive CAN mean white (and most often does).

(Anonymous) 2012-04-01 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Most people are perfectly aware of what "olive" skin is. But there are other factors that indicate a darker skin.

http://xalexiel.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-katniss-everdeen-is-woman-of-color.html

Everyone can judge for themselves, but is it really not whitewashing when only white people were auditioned for the role of Katniss? Yes, it's logical that Katniss was white in the movie for the sake of "keeping things simple", but I don't see why no-one would be able to work around that. If a darker skinned Katniss is possible in the book, I don't see how it can't translate into the movie as well. If audiences are left confused, then perhaps the movie isn't doing its intended purpose.
IMO, it's not a problem that Katniss is white in the movie, but canceling other options during the casting does raise more than a few questions.

(Anonymous) 2012-04-01 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
This, pretty much.