[ SECRET POST #1925 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1925 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 070 secrets from Secret Submission Post #275.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat (same text, different image) ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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[(Anonymous)]

And neither can the religious person. If it's the OP, it's the religious one too.

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[childings.livejournal.com]

I just find it weird that someone could not see the difference between a fandom and a religion, especially considering how common it is for people to latch onto fandoms, then drop them, then find a new fandom, etc.

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that the OP doesn't see the difference - it sounds to me as though that the OP is complaining that the friend is the one that can't see that religion and fandom are the same to the OP (i.e. not important).

If you're going to argue that the OP should see that religion is important to her friend, couldn't you argue back that the friend should see that religion is not important to the OP? Especially considering how common it is that people aren't religious?

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[childings.livejournal.com]

that religion and fandom are the same to the OP

I mean, again, "something that is very important to a person" =/= religion. I get that fandom can be a central part of somebody's life but it's like, not necessary for the person to include other people in a fandom in order to continue enjoying the fandom and to continue to have that as a central part of their life. But that's exactly how evangelical Christianity works -- it's central to the practice of the religion.

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[mika-kun.livejournal.com]

That's kinda the problem. Even totally ignoring the fandom part of the secret, I don't care how central it is to your religion, you don't get to push it on me.

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[childings.livejournal.com]

I agree I AGREE I FUCKING AGREE with that part completely. I'm just saying it's not the same thing as trying to push a fandom on someone.

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[(Anonymous)]

And everybody else is saying that you can't just say "It's not the same thing ever!" because for the OP, it is. For the friend, it may not be. It doesn't have to be the same for both parties involved. The OP might think the friend is a hypocrite and the friend might not agree. They can see things different ways.

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[mika-kun.livejournal.com]

Your right its worse.

As several people have mentioned all over this thread pushing a religion on someone is basically saying that you think there is something wrong with the way that person lives their life.

Pushing a fandom has no such implications.

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[childings.livejournal.com]

If it's worse, it logically follows that they can't be comparable to each other. Harassing someone to read Homestuck over and over isn't nearly as wrong as constantly trying to force them to go to church with you. That's the only point I was trying to make, that I don't see it as hypocritical because these two things aren't logically comparable to each other.

"a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess." Even the definition of "hypocrisy" involves some degree of morality and I don't see how morality factors into fandom when in the evangelical adherent's mind, it does factor into dragging someone to church

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[(Anonymous)]

So this whole time you've basically been arguing semantics?

Dude, no wonder so many people hate you.

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(same anon as above)

Having said that, yeah bugging someone to read a webcomic is definitely NOT comparable to trying to change their entire belief system.