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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-04-10 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1925 ]


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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-10 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I just don't get why so many F!S regulars like you so much

What are you talking about

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah seriously, lol.

I don't like you or your attitude very much, but I kind of admire the way you keep coming back to insist your opinions in the most insulting way possible. So thumbs up?
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I think what's really insulting is how little empathy people who don't personally participate or believe in a religion have for people who do, but whatever.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'm always surprised by how little empathy people who do participate in religion have for people who don't.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Well I don't fall into either category. And if makes you feel any better (not that I give a shit, you sound like real ass), I was forced to go to church as a kid by my grandmother, even though my parents were atheists. I hated it so much I would hide every Sunday and hope nobody would find me so I didn't have to go. I got physically and emotionally bullied by my peers, told my parents were going to Hell, etc. It was awful. So I have no love for evangelical Christianity. I can still understand the fucked up logic of these people and why someone trying to drag another person to church MIGHT BE DIFFERENT from trying to get them into a fandom.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
NOBODY IS SAYING IT IS THE SAME THING TO THE EVANGELICAL FRIEND.
everybody is saying it is he same to the friend who is uninterested.

does that clear stuff up? seriously where do you see people going OH WELL THE CHRISTIAN FRIEND DOESNT CARE! IT IS THE SAME FOR HER AS DAYS OF OUR LIVES or some shit

that doesn't make evangelical christianity any less annoying or pressuring to the person who is the target
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
NOBODY IS SAYING IT IS THE SAME THING TO THE EVANGELICAL FRIEND

Maybe try reading the thread again

that doesn't make evangelical christianity any less annoying

The one thing we agree on apparently

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I don't think they lack empathy. You can understand that the girl thinks religion is completely different from fandom. They think they're saving their friend's soul etc. I think the OP gets that their friend doesn't think of it the same way. But from the OP's perspective, her friend is asking her to respect that she's not interested in something, but not respecting the OP's disinterest in being Christian. She obviously understands that her friend doesn't see her religion as anything like fandom. That's why she's wary about talking to her about it.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
It sounds like OP is hoping to convince their friend that their religion is comparable to fandom (from their personally perspective), but if that's the case, they won't succeed, because their friend is never going to see it that way. The friend sounds like they lack empathy as well, and like they don't really care about OP's feelings at all, but that doesn't make it okay to go "LOL your religion is just a fandom". Do you think it would be okay to go around telling people of other faiths that their religion is just a big fandom, just because you don't believe in a religion? Even though I am not a Christian, and in addition, I don't have any love for the particular sect of Christianity where the point seems to be to force it on other people, I don't think it's right to compare any religion to a fandom.

Honestly, OP should just find a different friend

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
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I don't think the OP has any interest in trying to convince their friend that the way they feel about Christianity is the way they feel about fandom. At most it seems like they wish their friend would respect their disinterest in religion at least as much as they'd respect their disinterest in something like a fandom.

I agree it might be hopeless either way, but I don't get the sense that the OP doesn't actually get how evangelical Christians can be. Not only are they taught it's a matter of eternal life or death, they're taught a thousand reasons why they should ignore any feelings that they're being rude by proselytizing.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Now that I read it again, it seems like the OP is trying to make that comparison as a way of maybe salvaging their friendship. But if that's the case, it's not going to work, and they'd be better off just ending the friendship.