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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-04-10 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1925 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1925 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not positive which fandom this is about, but I think I know, and if that's the case, it's definitely frustrating to see him constantly referred to as gay by everyone when he's obviously...not. I don't know that I'd call him bi (it's really complicated, which is actually pretty awesome, even if everyone refuses to acknowledge how complicated it is), but I definitely wouldn't call him gay just because he does seem to be pretty obviously in love with a woman. But as far as I know, the actor calls him gay just like everyone else does, although the way he describes him contradicts that. And although he's clearly Something Other Than 100% Gay to me, I've only seen I think two other people suggest that he's not actually (completely) gay.

But yeah, I don't get why bi/something more complicated is never an option. I'll disagree with the "straight is NOT an option" part, especially in society (though there may be some of that in fandom, at least in certain circles), but in general I'm annoyed that there are very few characters in anything that have an orientation more complicated than can be summed up in one commonly-used-and-understood-by-everyone word.

(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
(it's really complicated, which is actually pretty awesome, even if everyone refuses to acknowledge how complicated it is)

EXACTLY. What makes it so interesting is that it's not a straight(lol) answer. It's more complicated than that. Real life is more complicated than straight or gay or bi.

I'll disagree with the "straight is NOT an option" part, especially in society (though there may be some of that in fandom, at least in certain circles)
tbh that part was meant to be about fandom, and a particular fandom I've been in especially(Supernatural).

(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
EXACTLY. What makes it so interesting is that it's not a straight(lol) answer. It's more complicated than that. Real life is more complicated than straight or gay or bi.

Exactly. In this case (at least from my point of view) there's such a big difference between what's actually happening onscreen and what's being said in interviews/the media that I'm starting to think the writers just don't want to invite any more controversy than they're already getting from this character/storyline and just figure "eh, we'll say he's gay, it's close enough". Honestly, I'm just glad (and surprised) that his wife isn't getting a ton of people claiming she's interfering with the gayness. As far as I can tell most fans actually seem to love her character and them as a couple, but it's still a new and really small fandom so I figure if the show goes on long enough it'll happen eventually, unfortunately.

tbh that part was meant to be about fandom, and a particular fandom I've been in especially(Supernatural).

Ah, yes. OBVIOUSLY Sam never loved Jessica and being with her was just a way to distract himself from the fact that he wanted Dean's dick!

[identity profile] youremyqueen.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Can you tell me the fandom you're referring to, anon? I don't think I recognize it, but the way you're describing the relationship makes it sounds really interesting and is making me want to watch it!

(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
anon from up there

The new show GCB. I don't know if it's what the OP was talking about or not, but it's the first thing I thought of when I read the secret.

The character is married to a woman, ostensibly to hide the fact that he's gay (they live in a very conservative/religious area) and although it seemed like a pretty straightforward marriage of convenience at first, it's gotten a lot more complicated since then. According to the actor his interest in men is only sexual and doesn't mean anything, and his relationship with his wife is far more important. Their relationship isn't at all conventional, but it's really interesting and they work really well together.They ended up having sex in the most recent episode but they're trying to have a baby so that may be the only reason.

I think it just comes down to how you look at it. I tend to think of being gay as being emotionally/romantically interested in the same sex rather than only sexually, and in that case this character doesn't fit. Like I said before, I don't know that I'd call him bi because I think it's more complicated than that, but to me he's definitely not 100% gay.