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⌈ Secret Post #1925 ⌋

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Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

Then don't have full-on penetrative sex with a male? It boggles my mind that anyone that vehemently opposed or poorly prepared for having babies would do so voluntarily.

Yes, I know, non-consensual situations exist and so do genuine unforseseen health emergencies, thus why abortion needs to be a thing. But seriously? If babies are out of the question, crossing one's legs makes so much more sense than relying on birth control that's known to be less than perfect and/or having some horrible surgical procedure to kill the kid after the fact.

I'm sure I'll get slammed for saying so, since it's fashionable these days to assume that the right to do whatever we feel like trumps any responsibility we bear for the consequences, but I'm sorry, it's just a biological fact: no sex, no pregnancy, no abortion, no problem.

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[(Anonymous)]

Because no woman ever gets pregnant due to rape, right? That slut just should have kept her knees together.

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[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT but

Can you not read? Because this whole sentence covered your reactionary bleating: Yes, I know, non-consensual situations exist and so do genuine unforseseen health emergencies, thus why abortion needs to be a thing.

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[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I can read. Can you? 'Cause anon I replied to went on to say "just keep your legs crossed..." Because it's just that simple.

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[(Anonymous)]

DA

Yeah, this is kind of my point of view on this... I'm avoiding sex with a man because I know I'm not ready for a baby or even a pregnancy. It's not because I'm repressed or a prude (well, maybe a bit of a prude, but not that much), it's because the consequences are not worth it.

If people want to have sex, that's their choice, but they need to be able to deal with the consequences. Expecting to have consequence free sex is irresponsible at best and delusional and over-entitled at worse.

It's like having a pet: great for you if you have a pet, but you need to have some emergency funds set aside for it. If not, it's your right to have a pet and I'm not taking that away from you, but you shouldn't.

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[(Anonymous)]

what if someone takes your choice away from you and rapes you?

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[(Anonymous)]

Previous anon already made it clear they were not referring to rape.

Personally, I don't know what I'd do in rape (honestly I would at least look into adoption), but I'd still avoid sex because I don't want to get pregnant, and know I can't handle that.

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm avoiding sex with a man because I know I'm not ready for a baby or even a pregnancy.

I hope your lesbian affair turns out well!

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[(Anonymous)]

Unfortunately I'm not sure I'm ready for sex period and there have been very few women I've been attracted to (not that many men either, but more men than women). However, yeah, I'd sooner decide I was ready to have sex with any given female partner than any given male partner because no pregnancy risk is definitely a good thing.

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[(Anonymous)]

you old romantic, you!

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[(Anonymous)]

There are always STDs to worry about.

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[(Anonymous)]

This is true, but I imagine also more difficult to transfer from female to female. Also, while it's not 100% safe sex, it's still probably safer than sex with someone who could get me pregnant.

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[(Anonymous)]

Protip: Neither the herp, AIDS, gonorrhea nor chlamydia (to name but a few) care about what sex you and your partner are. They're just as transmittable in gay sex as they are in hetero sex. Not trying to scare you off or anything, but that's a faulty assumption you're working under.

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[(Anonymous)]

so women can only have good victim abortions not slut abortions, I see

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[(Anonymous)]

The way I read it was: don't have sex if you can't deal with the consequences which means a pregnancy ending in delivery, abortion, or miscarriage. If you can't handle that, no, you shouldn't be having sex.

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[(Anonymous)]

DA

If this were the case, you'd think this would also be the case for teenage boys and young men. But no. You and society say: Fuck those whores who weren't able to make the guy wear a condom.

And I'm saying to you, fuck you and your double standards.

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[(Anonymous)]

No, I think the men should be half responsible in consensual sex.

However, while I'd hold the man responsible, I can't change society.

And unfortunately the one with the uterus is always going to be the one who gets pregnant. This is not surprising. You can be sure if I were going to go out and have sex with many different men that I might not be able to hold accountable, I'd sure as hell have enough tucked away for an abortion if that's what I would need.

What's so wrong with saying "Don't agree to consensual sex with a man if you don't have the resources to deal with unplanned and unfortunate side effects"? It may suck that it's all on the woman to pay for the abortion, but this isn't a surprise either. She knew what she was getting into.

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[(Anonymous)]

No. I have a right to have sex with an adult connecting partner. This is in no way related by my right not to have my body used by another person without my permission and I have the right to stop people from using it - hence no forced organ/blood donation.

Since my body cannot be used by another person, my body cannot be used by a fetus without my permission either and I have the right to stop the fetus from using my body.

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[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

No. I have a right to have sex with an adult connecting partner. This is in no way related by my right not to have my body used by another person without my permission and I have the right to stop people from using it - hence no forced organ/blood donation.

Yes, but you don't have the right to expect other people to pay for your abortions. Personally, I do view pregnancy as an inescapable consequence of sex, whether that ends in delivery, abortion, or miscarriage.

Since my body cannot be used by another person, my body cannot be used by a fetus without my permission either and I have the right to stop the fetus from using my body.

Does that give you the right to destroy the fetus though? That's always an interesting question for me as none of these abortion techniques ever modify the woman's body, only the fetus's. (Just waxing philosophical.)

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[(Anonymous)]

Yes. I do have the right to destroy the fetus. I have the right to use the minimum amount of force necessary to prevent a person or fetus from using my body against my will. The minimum amount of force necessary to remove a fetus results in the destruction of the fetus.

Also, in regards to modifying the woman vs. the fetus - depends on the abortion technique.

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[kallanda-lee.livejournal.com]

Because *shock horror* some women actually much prefer penetrative sex over anything else, and don't want to wait until they are post-menopausal to perform their favourite sexual activity, just because there are people out there who oppose contraception or abortions - even though have zero moral qualms about it themselves..

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[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Well it's irresponsible to have sex like that when you can't deal with a result pregnancy and the following delivery, abortion, or miscarriage.

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[(Anonymous)]

So what you're saying is "poor people shouldn't have sex"

That's not shitty, classist and judgemental at all!

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[(Anonymous)]

So what you're saying is "poor people shouldn't have sex"

Poor people shouldn't have sex that could result in a pregnancy when they don't have the means to deal with it. Yes that is what I'm saying. I'm also saying that people who are not able to cope with a pregnancy for health or psychology reasons should also not have sex that could result in a pregnancy.

There's a big difference between not having sex, and not having sex that can result in pregnancy, learn it.