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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-04-28 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #1943 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1943 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-28 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Where did you get that from? o_O

I meant that women found the stupid ditzy girl trope offensive enough and spoke up enough about it that TV execs and writers went 180 in the opposite direction for fear of being labeled old fashioned and offensive. So they went from one extreme to the other, still ignoring all of the stuff in between which was the real problem to begin with.

(Anonymous) 2012-04-28 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
>one extreme to the other
>ignoring all of the stuff in between
>was the real problem to begin with

This is why I adore the rare *sympathetic* female villain who has reasons for being evil having nothing to do with their gender or (hetero)sexuality. How many male anti-villains full of sympathetic manpain do we get? I wish there were more female versions of those.
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-28 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
What's wrong with a female character who's just evil for the sake of being evil
Male characters can do it, why not women

Honestly I get more annoyed when writers feel like they have to give sympathetic excuses for women who are evil, like they're saying "oh she's a lady so she has to have a good reason to do bad things because women are nice and sweet" or something. That's why the tv version of Cersei in Game of Thrones is so annoying
Edited 2012-04-28 22:00 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-04-28 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh i don't want to see any characters who are evil for the sake of being evil. that's boring.
ext_81845: kai shiden w/ an awkward expression, from the manga gundam: the origin (awkward)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-29 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
I find it amusing (sometimes, refreshing, because it rarely happens IRL) but YMMV of course
Edited 2012-04-29 08:56 (UTC)

[identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com 2012-04-29 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
IMHO, she's sympathetic in the same way in the books. In both versions she has an abusive marriage. In both versions, she is in a world that doesn't value women. In both versions she had a horrible childhood and wants to show her father that she is the true Lannister lion. In both versions, she is still not a nice person and pretty evil. The only thing they really changed was making the killing of the bastards Joffrey's idea.

(Anonymous) 2012-04-29 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
They also changed the part about her baby with Robert. In the show she loved him and was incredibly depressed when he died in infancy. In the books, she and Jaime got it aborted before Robert even knew of its existence.

(Anonymous) 2012-04-29 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
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