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So you wish he had your pet diagnosis rather than somebody else's pet diagnosis, such as autism or ASPD? Why can't he have SPD and be asexual also?

What I'm really asking is, why is your interpretation more valid? Many psychological disorders, as well as non-disordered personality quirks and lifestyles and choices, have overlapping characteristics and symptoms.

I would question what makes any interpretation valid. For a show/actors that have already gotten both sociopathy and asexuality wrong, does OP think they are accurately trying to portray any one specific disorder? It's unlikely they could if they tried

If you're referring to Sherlock BBC: I agree about the sociopathy (and Moffat's claim that Sherlock and Irene are psychopaths is just laughable), but how did they get the asexuality wrong?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1297023/Sherlocks-got-sexy-With-nicotine-papers-instead-pipe-taxis-replacing-hansom-cabs-new-TV-Holmes-21st-century-hero.html

'I accept that two men looking for a flat share in the modern world is open to question but it's addressed wittily.

'I think Holmes was - and is in our modern interpretation - asexual, rather than gay or bisexual.

'I think he had an experience of a woman that left him badly burnt.'

Oh, yes, that... d-:

Good question. Since I'm of the "Sherlock being asexual is not canon" mindset, I can't say. Maybe it was because S02E01 felt sort of like it was saying "asexual=virgin"?

Cumberbatch has attributed Sherlock's "asexuality" to being "burnt" by a woman. That is not how that works and sounds more like sexual aversion than asexuality.

...forgive me if my reaction to that is "awesome." Considering people have been using Cumberbatch's interpretation as basis for asexual!Sherlock as canon, it makes me happy to know that he just blew that out of the water. Now everyone can go back to interpreting things their own way and stop telling me I'm doing it wrong.

(Sucks for you, though--sorry anon.)

No- Moffat has stated Sherlock is asexual but Cumberbatch has the wrong idea about what asexuality is and what it's caused by.

Like I said, it's unlikely they could portray anything specific and non-typical accurately if they tried

Moffat has stated Sherlock is asexual

No, he's stated Sherlock is celibate, because (paraphrased) "asexuals are boring to write".

Edited 2012-05-02 00:30 (UTC)

Aaaaand another reason to hate the guy. /am an ace

Word. I really, really wish Moffat would stop being involved with shows I like...

/if you can't figure out a way to make asexuals interesting, it's because you're an uncreative hack.

Seriously. I mean, he's dismissive of women and now of asexuals too? Why not be a Muslim hater too Moffat, tick off all my boxes and be done with it.

And yeah, you don't have to slot in sex just to be interesting. If you have no idea how to make a story that focuses on plot and character but have no sex then you're just a knockoff writer.

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Actually, Moffat thinks asexuality is boring and he says Sherlock is not asexual. It really is Cumberbatch making the claim, far as I can tell.

http://asexualnews.com/index.php/entertainment/973-steven-moffat-says-sherlock-is-not-asexual

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2012/jan/20/steven-moffat-sherlock-doctor-who

But I agree with you. If asexual!Sherlock was their intention, they probably still wouldn't get it right.

Actually, I think the show itself has done an ok job with it (yes, even with the Irene stuff in SiB). So I just ignore the interviews and crap (esp. anything Moffat has to say), and just go with what's on the show.

Yes, which is weird that Moffat thinks asexuals is BORING because I think they did a good job with making Sherlock seems asexual even with SiB.

I know. Hell, given his reactions to Irene, he seemed more asexual there than anywhere.

Hey, as much as I love the idea of Sherlock being asexual, I'm totally wiling to say that no, it's not canon.

Considering the comment was around the time S1 was being broadcast, I think not.

But wouldn't it follow that at least some asexuals are virgins? if you have no interest in sex, you wouldn't have it, right?

I think it's just the common "oh, you'll enjoy sex once you have it!" thing. People use it to discount asexuality all the time.

Honestly, I think any time someone says that, you should respond with, "Have you tried sex with [the gender you're not attracted to]? I'm sure you'll love it once you try it!"
Obviously. that wouldn't work bisexuals.. and a lot of people might be curious enough to try, anyway... (-:

Edited 2012-05-02 00:32 (UTC)

i guess i just think he fits all the criteria for SPD, but there are many for aspergers that he doesn't fit. i guess he could be asexual and schizoid, but i thought people didn't count asexuality-due-to-disorder as true asexuality idk.

but yeah, i know it's silly and entitled, that's why it's secret :D

Well as long as you know then I am not terribly bothered.

Exactly this. :) I just see Sherlock as really smart, somewhat repressed, and social faily; I never even attempted to find a disorder to match that, and I'm not alone. Don't be so offended that we didn't look to put him under a particular label, OP.