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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-02 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #1947 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1947 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 068 secrets from Secret Submission Post #278.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Here's the thing about online bullying... it is very easy, due to the anonymous nature of being online, to cry wolf. I'm not saying online bullying doesn't exist and I'm not saying that the OP hasn't genuinely been bullied. But I'm weary of this secret because the OP does remind me of someone in Trek fandom who does play the victim card, and often, but is actually the bully herself.

I'll elaborate. Back a couple of years ago, when the Trek fandom was still thriving off of the energy of the Reboot, there were a lot of ugly things going on. This is the nature of fandom. I've yet to see a fandom escape it. Anyway, there would be a small handful of people in each ship that would take shipwars to extreme and less than hospitable measures. This was unfortunate, of course it is, but this person REFUSES TO LET IT GO. She brings it up here, she brings it up at [livejournal.com profile] ohnotheydidnt, she brings it up to the shipper comms. It's been at least two years since the bulk of the the shipwars were at their worst, and she refuses to let it die by consistently referring to it. She'll link to essays written two years ago. She equates someone commenting on an icon being inappropriate to bullying. She'll make locked posts in the rival ship comm about how 'that other evil ship is out to get me, why aren't you lot out there defending me! For the love of god, buy into my wank! Let's get the drama started!'

She keeps pointing out this one post one idiot made when ZQ came out that said something like 'this means Spock is gay' but what she always neglects to mention? When the poster created that post almost ALL the comments in reply to it was shippers telling the poster that he/she was out of line for comparing the actor to the character he plays. There were several people on my flist genuinely upset about the content of that post. In fact, anytime anything wanky is posted on the comm in question, numerous people come forward to say 'stop it, just stop'. Does she ever acknowledge this? No she does not. Of course not, difficult to play the victim if you paint an entire picture now isn't it?

Basically what it comes down to is she is an attention seeker. It's all very 'look at me, look at me'. The ship for which she is on a gun-ho campaign to smear through heavy-handed defamation has been actively trying to avoid her (I would know because I'm one of them), trying to get over all of the nastiness that happened in the past and just concentrate on our ship but she refuses to let it die (I secretly suspect this is because she doesn't like to be ignored). Only a very small portion of a ship of thousands still participate in shipwars, actually only a very small portion of this ship of thousands participated in the shipwars to begin with. Yet she consistently makes blanket statements about the evil ship out to get her, damning the group as a whole for the actions of a few. The bulk of said ship is perfectly happy to exist in our little shipper bubble and ignore any unpleasantness. I know this personally, I have a flist of several hundred people, most of which is composed of members of this ship and I don't see any of them participating in the ship wank.

Through her consistent smear campaign and her inability to LET IT GO, I consider HER the bully. So yeah, I'm taking this secret with a grain of salt. I'm sure some people are genuinely being bullied online and that sucks, but there are also those who use the 'I'm being bullied' creed to garner sympathy with dubious intentions.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. I'm not in Trek fandom despite loving the franchise to bits, but this is exactly the type of thing I pictured when I read this secret. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Very well said. Thank you. I've been avoiding commenting on this because it's all just so frustrating. But...

I'm not even in the Trek fandom and I know who and what you're talking about. I was very supportive of this person in the beginning, because she seemed genuinely confused and upset. I tried to talk with her, support her, explain what she could do to avoid the conflict - which is what she said she wanted. But time after time of her bringing it up seemingly out of nowhere, I'm starting to wonder if she's mentally challenged (and I do not mean that in a derogatory way. I'm honestly thinking she might have some sort of mental disability which would explain her lack of grasping basic social norms even when pointed out to her), a troll, or just an attention seeking drama llama. I still feel kind of sorry for her, but I don't fall victim to her charade any longer. And this secret is exactly the type of shit she'd pull.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
I have a sneaking suspicion you're right, and an even more sneaking suspicion that she's our resident troll above.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, sorry. Not even in Star Trek fandom, never watch anything but the movie, don't really ship anything (maybe a tiny bit of Uhara/Spock? It was cute in the movie), never posted on ONTD (more than anything I'm annoyed at its constant promotion).

Nope, I'm just someone who takes it personally because I don't like seeing emotional abuse excused because of my home life. Thanks for trying to discredit me.

Not to mention, I type differently than the self-proclaimed OP, and I said cyberbullying was less serious than irl bullying, just that it didn't get a free pass either.

Thanks for playing though.

Umm: 2/10?

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
-24/10

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I know baby, thinking is hard.

The evidence is what it is.