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fandomsecrets2012-05-02 06:51 pm
[ SECRET POST #1947 ]
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 05:53 am (UTC)(link)You can stop it. You can not tolerate it in your journal; you can not tolerate it in your communities; you can be aware that good people and good friends can be bullies and stop them.
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 05:58 am (UTC)(link)You can "not tolerate it" 'til you're blue in the face. That's not going to stop the asshole from being an asshole and not giving a damn that you don't tolerate it. Short of hacking the bully's computer, you can't really do anything. And sorry, but no bully is worth federal prison time.
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 06:09 am (UTC)(link)Yeah, I was totally talking about hacking. *rollseyes* What I'm talking about is peer pressure or moderation when you have that power. This is not a hard concept.
Also, how can you say that it's my own fault for losing friends and then say that you wouldn't stand up to a bully at all? A friend of yours always whispering in your ear how horrible [ljuser62] is will eventually reach a point of confrontation. Then you'll choose [ljuser62] or the bully, and it sounds like you're not willing to turn on the bully.
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 06:17 am (UTC)(link)The thing about peer pressure is you need peers. For someone hiding behind the anonymity of the internet, peer pressure loses all meaning. The bully doesn't care what your friends think. And if you aren't a moderator? *shrugs* SOL. Sucks to be you, I guess.
I just don't see the point in wasting time to stop online "bullies" (really more like trolls) that you can easily walk away from when that can be much better spent stopping the bullies you can't just turn off your modem to avoid.
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 06:30 am (UTC)(link)I can stop my friends from bullying people. They are my peers. It is more serious at the local high school and middle school, I'm sure, but that doesn't mean I can do anything here. With my friends, I have an influence and I'm going to use that to the best of my ability.
You keep saying it's so easy to walk away from and if you lose any friends its your own fault... have you ever actually been targeted online yourself? Have you ever had an account you couldn't just walk away from? Have you ever been afraid of losing your friends, but afraid the bully would find you again too? You're doing nothing but trying to find new and creative ways to blame the victim. Would you blame the victim of any other attack? How did they deserve what they got? If they bitched about it too much did they deserve to lose their friends? Please tell me more about how it's always the victims fault for not doing enough prevention, how it's always their fault if they lose relationships, and how no matter what the attacker has said or done, the victim is really responsible for their own treatment.
I know the victim can take steps to prevent this happening, but that doesn't make them wrong when it does. The attacker is always to blame.
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 06:41 am (UTC)(link)No, you really can't stop your friends from doing anything. If you hold such great influence over them, then why'd you lose half of them to a bully in the first place?
Have you ever actually been targeted online yourself?
Yes.
Have you ever had an account you couldn't just walk away from?
No. User accounts are both free and expendable.
Have you ever been afraid of losing your friends, but afraid the bully would find you again too?
Nope, because I'm not a drama addict who is apt to pull the same shit under a different screenname, and I would not lose friends because I would privately message them to let them know what my new screenname is.
I do not need you trying to blame this on me and I refuse to respond further.
Oh good. Because while pointing out all the fallacies in your argument could qualify as an Olympic sport, I have work tomorrow and really need to be getting to bed. But as you're the type who seems to need the last word, we'll see how long your "I'm not responding anymore" schtick lasts. Based on the current pattern, I give you about a 20 minutes.