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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-13 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #1958 ]


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[identity profile] curseangel.livejournal.com 2012-05-14 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I find your assertion that ALL bronies - any guy who uses that word to describe himself - is a "pig, asshole, misogynist, racist, homophobe, transphobe, and ableist" to be quite offensive.

Okay, let me rephrase: "Any guy who uses the word brony to describe himself is either a misogynist, racist, homophobe, transphone, ableist and asshole, or they are an enabler and supporter of misogynists, racists, homophobes, transphobes, ableists and assholes." Better?

Two of my good guy friends - one of whom is one of my best friends - identify as "bronies" and they are nothing of the sort.

If they were nothing of the sort, they'd be... fans, not "bronies."

They're not really involved in fandom either (one of them browses the Internet for memes and shit, but doesn't really do any forums, and the other isn't really involved at all). They probably don't know about all the shit that went down with various Internet bronies - and even if they did, would they be obligated to stop calling themselves a "brony" just because some people who use that title have majorly fucked up?

Because the very name "brony" is misogynist, in that it explicitly names the subculture as for men only, and the group actively seeks to exclude women? Because a Google search could tell them more than enough to justify ditching the label? Because it's not just "some people" in the brony group who have fucked up, it's the majority of them? Wow.

A brony is a male pony fan

No. Just no. Full stop. A male pony fan is a "fan." Bronies are a specific subfandom/subculture group. It is not the same thing.

I would go and call the fuckups assholes and pigs, not bronies, or at least not "the only bronies that exist".

So what you're saying is, I should completely ignore the enabling, facilitating and supporting atmosphere of the group wrt -isms/-phobias, the fact that it's a huge majority of the group, etc. and only go after explicitly named bronies? Wow, that's short-sighted.

My friends are not assholes and pigs. They just like ponies and happen to be guys.

Then maybe your friends should try not adopting a misogynistic fan term used by a bunch of bigots? Cos when I hear "brony" I don't think "male pony fan" -- if it were just about being a fan of MLP, they'd be a fan. A "brony" has to make it more about the fact that they're male, that they're in that subculture, that they're a guy who's into a girls' show rather than just being a fan of it. It's a completely different animal, and your friends should educate themselves.