[ SECRET POST #1958 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1958 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 104 secrets from Secret Submission Post #280.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

Uh-huh.

Okay, sure.

Tell me, PLEASE tell me, who am I oppressing by being anti-bigotry? Who am I doing serious harm to? Whose rights am I denying? What LAWS am I advocating that would cause serious harm to people by being against bigotry? Please, I am just DYING to know.

You'd be fucking hilarious if your false equivalence didn't make me so damn sad for the world.

[(Anonymous)]

Your hatred only begets more hate, and when people see that you hate them, their own hatred grows. And you aren't exactly anti-bigotry, you are just as hateful as the people you claim to fight against. Look at your responses to the people who were being perfectly reasonable in this thread. Look at your responses to someone who is your friend- that is not friendship. That is pure cruelty and emotional manipulation.

Maybe someday you will see this, but I honestly have very little hope that you will. You've become addicted to outrage, and it's harder to kick that habit than it is to stop smoking crack.

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

To reasonable people I have been fairly reasonable in response. However, since they decided to come into the thread in the middle of a fairly charged discussion, for lack of a better word, yes, I did get snappish and use some angry language (here please distinguish between "angry language" and "actually insulting someone"). I've admitted several times on f!s that I often appear much angrier than I am. /shrug Call it a flaw.

As for my brief discussion here with my friend, I'll thank you not to assume you're getting the full story just from what's here. Not least because I seemed to ignore or breeze over several things because we've had this exact same debate before and I had already talked to them about those things. And I fail to see where I was emotionally manipulative or cruel.

And yeah, I'm basically blowing you off because I tend to pay little or no attention to the kinds of assholes who barge in and decide that my being angry at misogyny is the exact same thing as the right trying to deny me the right to marry.

[(Anonymous)]

Misogyny is like an AK-47 of a word, and you keep pulling it out when a pellet gun would do.

You're over-the-top. Someone using a word you don't like in anger doesn't necessarily make them a misogynist. Maybe a bit of an ass, but misogyny is a very, very specific word that loses meaning when you toss it out any time someone says "twat" or "bitch."

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

Okay, um, first of all, the "bitch" and other words threads were in other posts; I assumed (perhaps naively) that we were discussing my posts in this thread.

As to that, I have calmed down considerably on the language issue. I do still feel that those words are misogynist, though. And I don't consider it a bad thing to call them what they are.

And brony culture, as it were, IS misogynist. The word is -- "brony" is a men-only subfandom/subculture group that purposely excludes women. They also browbeat, threaten, insult, hurl slurs at, etc. woman fans if they dare to think they have a space in the fandom. Further, they act as if because they are men, their opinions, feelings, and fandom of the show are more valid and more important than those of the female fans the show was made for (particularly, I've seen bronies en masse throw fits over the fact that MLP toys are made with - gasp! - little girls in mind, not grown men). They essentially seek to co-opt a show that was made for women and girls because they are men and have decided that space should be theirs, and that is misogynistic.

Misogyny is a word that should be used whenever misogyny occurs or is present. It doesn't "lose its meaning" because we use it to address even more subtle, culturally-validated forms of misogyny like sexist language (bitch, etc.), magazine covers, or subcultural groups where misogyny is normalized and enabled (bronies, the Republican party, etc.).

[harpsi-fizz.livejournal.com]

Just so you know, I'm never going to give up on you. Not just because there's good in everyone, but because I've seen the good in you and it's too good to just say "forget it, not worth saving".

And I'll promise you this, too: if one day you find another battle plan in the crusade, I would no sooner bring up your old methods than I would bring up my birth name. 'Cause that's not who we are anymore, and there's nothing wrong with that.

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

Thanks, I guess? I don't really see where I'm being "bad" except that I got pissed off.