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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-14 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #1959 ]


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[identity profile] kateshort.livejournal.com 2012-05-15 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on the type of test you get done. Generally, men can get the Y-chromosome test to trace their male lineage way back, and men and women can both get the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) test to trace their female lineage way back. What the exact test is depends on which company you have do it.

https://www.23andme.com/ancestry/techniques/ lists four different techniques that can be done, depending on your gender:

"One, Maternal Ancestry, traces your maternal lineage back through time from you to your mother, her mother, and all the way to the mother of all humans. Paternal Ancestry does the same for your paternal* lineage, tracing from you back to the father of all fathers. A third, Ancestry Painting, tells you where in the world each stretch along each of your 22 autosomal pairs is likely to have come from. The last, Global Similarity, assesses your relatedness to 10 regions that include more than 50 populations worldwide, as measured by the similarity of your DNA to people from those groups.

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* Paternal lineage information can only be obtained from male DNA. A female can learn about her paternal lineage from a male relative who shares that lineage and has been genotyped."


http://africanancestry.com/matriclan.html talks about one of two tests: "The MatriClan Test traces maternal ancestry by analyzing the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) women and men inherit exclusively from their mothers. We use the Hypervariable Segment 1 (HVS1)."

http://africanancestry.com/patriclan.html talks about the male test: "The PatriClan Test traces paternal ancestry by analyzing the Y-chromosome men inherit exclusively from their fathers. We use nine markers including the YAP.

Since only men carry a Y-chromosome, women CANNOT take the PatriClan Test. But luckily, women may trace their paternal lineage by having a male relative with their father’s last name take the test for them.

We find African ancestry for approximately 65% of the paternal lineages we test. The remaining 35% of the lineages we test typically indicate European ancestry. If our tests indicate that you are not of African descent, we will identify your continent of origin."

Both of the above sites have been featured on the PBS series "Finding Your Roots" which is really cool for discovering celebs' genealogical history.


https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/participate.html allows you to choose either of the two tests if you're a man, and the maternal test if you're a woman: "*Kits that are marked "maternal lineage" receive the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) test to reveal direct maternal ancestry. We test the Hypervariable Region 1 (HVR1: 16001 to 16569) and compares your results to the Cambridge Reference Sequence.

*Kits marked "paternal" receive the Y-chromosome test to reveal direct paternal ancestry. (Males only.) This is a 12-marker test. Additional testing such as a SNP test may be run on a Y-chromosome sample if analysis of the 12 STR values does not conclusively indicate a Haplogroup assignment."

Finally, http://dna.ancestry.com/ purports to have an updated test that looks at more than just the maternal or paternal lines: "Our new AncestryDNA test uses some of the latest DNA autosomal testing technology as a more comprehensive way to find family across all lines in your family tree. So one test covers both sides—maternal and paternal—and is equally effective for both men and women."

I haven't gotten any of these tests, but I think I'd like to at some point.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-05-15 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Do those mitochondrial tests really tell you all that much about your more recent relatives though? I thought the general consensus was that they didn't give you much specific information about your great-grandmother's mother's mother for example, other than maybe what general part of the world they're from

IDK I had a friend who did this recently and I asked her about it because I have been wondering about my maternal lineage for like, my whole life and it's difficult to find anything (I keep hitting a dead end at my great-grandmother's mother, I don't even know her maiden name) but she told me it wouldn't help at all for that.

I mean if all it comes back with is something like "European ancestry" I'd just be like DUH, I mean that is not helpful at all

[identity profile] kateshort.livejournal.com 2012-05-15 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
The mitochondrial and Y-dna tests won't do recent generations, but the autosomal test possibly can.

The Ancestry DNA test is an autosomal test that purports to show you matches to your dna; close matches can reveal people who are 3rd / 4th / 5th cousins, giving you someone who fits into your tree somehow and who may have done research on the same line of people. Of course, they only show you links to ancestry.com people who have taken the test.

The 23 and me Relative Finder https://www.23andme.com/ancestry/relfinder/ uses the autosomal dna and apparently allows people to connect to others with dna matches on their site.

But in either case, if you find a match, there's a *chance* they could be related to the side you're having the most trouble with. On the flip side, they could be related to you on a side you have researched thoroughly, giving you no new info.